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Old 03-01-2008, 10:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Buick GS Coupe or Grand National

Holden could get a better price, and make it a more viable business case,
selling it's Coupe60 in the US as a Buick Gran Sport.

Of course a Twin Turbo DI 3.6 V6, with boost cranked up for 600hp, could
make a Grand National version GM's fastest accelerating sedan based vehicle of all time.





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Old 03-01-2008, 11:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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While it looks good....


NO RWD BUICKS!

This will step on the toes of Cadillac and Pontiac, GM needs as little overlap as possible.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Buick GS Coupe or Grand National

Turbocharged 3.6 DI. 6 speed manual. A worthy successor to the GNX indeed. (Come on Schmallz, you know you want it.)

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Re: Buick GS Coupe or Grand National

PLEASE NO!

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Old 03-01-2008, 12:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How about we go one further - GSX.





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Turbocharged 3.6 DI. 6 speed manual. A worthy successor to the GNX indeed. (Come on Schmallz, you know you want it.)

It looks great on paper but GM has to establish a direction and purpose for each brand or else the 80s will happen all over again.

Chevrolet: Bread and Butter.
Pontiac: Affordable RWD performance.
Buick: Pure Luxury FWD , the most Comfortable ride this side of the Maybach.
Saab: Semi Luxury Quirky, Fun euro styled FWD/AWD cars.
Cadillac: RWD Luxury Performance, offering the best GM can conjure.

The only RWD product that Buick should get would be a Velite like Halo car, based on Zeta.
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It looks great on paper but GM has to establish a direction and purpose for each brand or else the 80s will happen all over again.

The Grand National is one of the few good things that happened at GM in the eighties. It wasn't that good compared to other Buicks from a more distant past but it was the best Buick from the eighties and the only one (and the last one) that's still got a decent resale value in today's market.

Thinking that cars like these is what caused problems to GM since the eighties makes no sense.

The (long term) damage to GM came from cars like the 2.8 Chevy-powered FWD 1988 Regal, not the Buick-powered 1987 Regal Turbo.
I don't think that anyone who owns a 1987 Regal Turbo in good shape would consider trading it for a newer 1988 or even for a 1998 or 2008 Buick!
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GS coupe, let the old names not be tampered with unless its twin turbo DI and really going to SMOKE the competition like CTSV and ZR1 and Z06 and SS in Cobalt form have done!

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I'm summoning the firing squad...

Good chop though.
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NO RWD BUICKS!

This will step on the toes of Cadillac and Pontiac, GM needs as little overlap as possible.
Well, if your tune the suspension for a soft road feel, being luxurious without sport (Caddy) and not being too low on price (POntiac) it could carve out its own niche. Also the engine would need to be tuned to be quiet and to purr like a cat, not to rumble with power like a BMW M car.
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GS coupe, let the old names not be tampered with unless its twin turbo DI and really going to SMOKE the competition like CTSV and ZR1 and Z06 and SS in Cobalt form have done!

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I also agree with this, the car should have a DI turbo, or twin turbo engine, with 300-400 hp on the top end, and maye just a DI engine as base
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It looks great on paper but GM has to establish a direction and purpose for each brand or else the 80s will happen all over again.

Chevrolet: Bread and Butter.
Pontiac: Affordable RWD performance.
Buick: Pure Luxury FWD , the most Comfortable ride this side of the Maybach.
Saab: Semi Luxury Quirky, Fun euro styled FWD/AWD cars.
Cadillac: RWD Luxury Performance, offering the best GM can conjure.

The only RWD product that Buick should get would be a Velite like Halo car, based on Zeta.
i would have to agree with you on that one. yes i would like a GNX, but it wouldnt work for buick and pontiac, especially since they are sold on the same lot. i think that this car should come as a pontiac, whatever name is will go as.
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Buick: Pure Luxury FWD , the most Comfortable ride this side of the Maybach.

The only RWD product that Buick should get would be a Velite like Halo car, based on Zeta.
Seriously? Maybach? I agree with the rest of the brand directions, but what would be so bad if this were Buick's Halo car? Would it make more sense as a Pontiac? Yes, but I honestly don't care what it is sold as in the US, as long as it is.
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Re: Buick GS Coupe or Grand National

GS coupe, let the old names not be tampered with unless its twin turbo DI and really going to SMOKE the competition like CTSV and ZR1 and Z06 and SS in Cobalt form have done!

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Re: Buick GS Coupe or Grand National

This coupe would not work for Buick because it looks too much like the G8 unless they spend the dollars to change the interior and sheetmetal.

The smartest way to get this auesome coupe to the US is to bring it over as part of the G8 family.
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