2009 Buick Official Changes

[caddycruiser]

Well...all is now up. Nothing too huge for Buick, except that the Lacrosse is now the sole vehicle with the 3.8L and the Lucerne gets....the 3.9L and retains the 4-speed in all. The Lucerne actually got quite a few changes, albeit small, and the rest are colors/options as usual.

Guess they figured out what to do with all the extra 3.9L's around!

Lacrosse
Deletions
(DG7) Mirrors, outside power-adjustable, body-color
(QB5) Wheels, 16" steel with wheel covers
(PY1) Wheels, 16" 8-spoke Chrome-Tech
(N85) Wheels, 17" 12-spoke painted aluminum
(PZE) Wheels, 17" 12-spoke, chromed aluminum
(FR3) Axle, 3.69 ratio
(LY7) Engine, 3.6L VVT DOHC V6
Exhaust, dual stainless-steel
(FE2) Suspension, 4-wheel independent, Sport-Tuned
Exterior color (27U) Scarlett Red
Exterior color (67U) Platinum Metallic

New Features
Exterior color (17U) Quicksilver Metallic

(ZFH) Tire, compact spare, includes steel wheel and jack kit, 16"
(ZBE) Tire, compact spare, includes steel wheel and jack kit, 17"
(UPF) Bluetooth phone interface, short range voice recognition

Changes
CXS, 4WE19 Model is not available for 2009
LaCrosse Super takes CXS place
Tire inflation kit added as standard on all models

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6835&type=0

Lucerne
Deletions
(AU0) Remote Keyless Entry
Visors, driver and front passenger vanity mirrors
(QPX) Tires, P225/60R16 all-season blackwall
(QC4) Wheels, 16" machined-face aluminum
Exterior color (14U) Light Quartz Metallic
Exterior color (67U) Platinum Metallic
Exterior color (99U) Sharkskin
(PZ3) Wheels, 18" Bright Silver finish aluminum
(P31) Wheels, 18" chrome plated aluminum
(FQ3) Axle, 2.86 ratio
(FV3) Axle, 3.11 ratio
(L26) Engine, 3.8L V6 SFI
(LD8) Engine, Northstar 4,6L DOHC V8
(FE1) Suspension, 4-wheel independent, Premium Ride
(FE3) Suspension, 4-wheel independent, Sport-Tuned
(PCK) Luxury Package

New Features
Exterior color (17U) Quicksilver Metallic

Exterior color (57U) Cyber Gray Metallic

Exterior color (96U) Mystic Sapphire Tricoat

(UPF) Bluetooth phone interface
(UBS) XM NavTraffic
Seat Trim, custom perforated suede-appointed seating
(RMG) Chrome decklid molding
(V3L) Grille, chromed
(QZ6) Wheels, 17" chrome-clad aluminum
(P49) Wheels, 18" premium Bright Silver finish aluminum
(Q9M) Wheels, 18" chrome-plated aluminum
(FR2) Axle, 2.93 ratio
(FV4) Axle, 3.71 ratio
(LZ9) Engine, 3.9L V6 SFI
(LGD) Engine, 3.9L V6 SFI FlexFuel
(L37) Engine, 4.6L DOHC V8 Northstar
Exhaust, stainless-steel with chrome tip
(FE4) Suspension, 4-wheel independent, Super

Changes
(PDD) Comfort and Convenience Package, (AG2) 6-way power front passenger seat adjuster and (DR2) outside heated power adjustable mirrors are not included in package

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...6958&type=0

Enclave
Deletions
Exterior color (67U) Platinum Metallic
Exterior color (78U) Blue-Gold Crystal Metallic

New Features
Exterior color (17U) Quicksilver Metallic

Exterior color (92U) Silver Green Metallic

(UBS) Real Time Traffic XM
(UPF) Bluetooth phone interface
(KB6) Seats, heated and cooled driver and front passenger
(LLT) Engine, 3.6L Variable Valve Timing V6 SIDI Direct Injection
Optional (UVC) Rearview camera system added to inside rearview mirror

Highlights
(PCU) Entertainment Package #1 no longer includes 6-CD changer
(KV1) 110-volt port power inverter is now in all Entertainment Packages and has been removed from the (PCK) Luxury Package
(PCI) Driver Confidence Package now includes (UVC) Rearview camera system

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/...795&type=0#

[caddycruiser]

Any thoughts on the Buick revisions...especially the Lucerne finally abandoning the 3.8L but then getting the 3.9L?

Some interesting ones there.

[JM9777]

We can see how much passion the existing Buick cars evoke around here.

I suppose the 3.9 in the Lucerne is an improvement over the 3.8. I'd be much more excited if it was the DI 3.6 and 6-speed automatic transmission. It's disappointing to see the 3.6 being dropped from the LaCrosse. I guess we know the (less-than) Super models will be short-lived because of CAFE.

The new Invicta/LaCrosse can't come soon enough.

[caddycruiser]

Yeah, not that the 3.9L is a huge improvement, but it should at least have more power and be quieter than the 3.8L in the Lucerne. The big wonder is fuel economy, since the 3.9L has varied in that regard since intro, especially in comparison to the classic 3.8L.

As for the Lacrosse, NO one ever bought the CXS trims in the first place, and they actually dropped the trim after a few months into the '08 model year because of the Super and the no-sale factor. It's one of GM's most "classic" cars and the 3.8L in it, alone, is a big reason why some people buy it. Actually, on that note, the new Super has now almost become what the CXS was for a few years...the nicest top trim that few actually buy.

[Shotgun]

As stated above, I think they should go with the 3.6 DI and 6-speed tranny as base in Lucerne. I'd think a highway mileage of 30-32 would be easy with that setup. Heck, the 3.8 with 4-speed can get 30 in most cases. Always has in the Regals, LeSabres of years past. It is a very efficent combo, but just wasn't updated enough through the years to some.

[1G6]

I've posted this elsewhere, but I will be buying a 3800 Lucerne soon. Unlike some here, I actually want the 3800.

Wonder if Bluetooth will be a possible add-on to a 2008 car?

[caddycruiser]

Originally Posted by 1G6

I've posted this elsewhere, but I will be buying a 3800 Lucerne soon. Unlike some here, I actually want the 3800.

Wonder if Bluetooth will be a possible add-on to a 2008 car?

The Bluetooth is a function of a new Onstar 8.0 system, which isn't back-compatible. Basically, unlike some thinking it was just an add-on module, it's a new Onstar all together and all one unit that is vin specific.

The only possibility is if they have or will develop an add-on module to existing Onstar systems that can handle it, and offer a Bluetooth accessory. That would be popular and cleanly done, but out there as far as a maybe guess...and one I would not count on at all.

[DuSpinnst]

I think the 3.6L 6-speed doesn't fit into the W-body.

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by caddycruiser

The Bluetooth is a function of a new Onstar 8.0 system, which isn't back-compatible. Basically, unlike some thinking it was just an add-on module, it's a new Onstar all together and all one unit that is vin specific.

The only possibility is if they have or will develop an add-on module to existing Onstar systems that can handle it, and offer a Bluetooth accessory. That would be popular and cleanly done, but out there as far as a maybe guess...and one I would not count on at all.

Um you can have your OnStar Hardware updated. I'd assume GM would keep the connector the same as to not have to change the wiring harness.

[Michael_S]

Originally Posted by caddycruiser

Yeah, not that the 3.9L is a huge improvement, but it should at least have more power and be quieter than the 3.8L in the Lucerne. The big wonder is fuel economy, since the 3.9L has varied in that regard since intro, especially in comparison to the classic 3.8L.

The 3.9 I had in a 2006 Impala 3LT rental was actually noticeably louder than the 3.4 I had in my 2001 Impala.

I'm sure the Lucerne is much quieter inside than the Impala, but the engine itself is probably louder than the 3.8.

Also, the new axle ratio for the Lucerne is the 2.93 and 3.71. If the 3.71 is for the 3.9, the engine will be running close to 2000 RPMs at 60 mph. That's going to drink fuel fast unless it spends an awful lot of time in cylinder deactivation mode.

[EldoFan]

Originally Posted by Michael_S

The 3.9 I had in a 2006 Impala 3LT rental was actually noticeably louder than the 3.4 I had in my 2001 Impala.

I'm sure the Lucerne is much quieter inside than the Impala, but the engine itself is probably louder than the 3.8.

Also, the new axle ratio for the Lucerne is the 2.93 and 3.71. If the 3.71 is for the 3.9, the engine will be running close to 2000 RPMs at 60 mph. That's going to drink fuel fast unless it spends an awful lot of time in cylinder deactivation mode.

The V8 would almost be a better choice if you were buying the Lucerne.......either that or just pray they run out of 3.9's soon....

[1G6]

Originally Posted by Michael_S

Also, the new axle ratio for the Lucerne is the 2.93 and 3.71. If the 3.71 is for the 3.9, the engine will be running close to 2000 RPMs at 60 mph. That's going to drink fuel fast unless it spends an awful lot of time in cylinder deactivation mode.

I'm sure it's for the Super/Northstar.

[Michael_S]

Originally Posted by EldoFan

The V8 would almost be a better choice if you were buying the Lucerne.......either that or just pray they run out of 3.9's soon....

Well, as far as I can tell the cheapest trim combination that gets you the V8 is $6,000 more than the base trim Lucerne. If you didn't care about anything else available as an upgrade, that $6,000 is a lot to spend to move up to a relatively low end V8.

[autofan]

I see the Saturn Outlook and Chevy Traverse getting 20" wheels as a factory option but no such option for the Enclave or Acadia. I think the Enclave could use bigger wheels since even the 19s only adequately fill out the wheel wells. Perhaps the order guide will reflect those changes at a later date. Perhaps they won't happen at all.

Behind that, some things just bug me. Why can't I get a cashmere interior in a Ming Blue (dark blue) Enclave? Every other GM product with a dark blue exterior has a beige or cashmere interior available. My wife wants that exact combination on the Enclave but it is inexplicably unavailable

Also, I have no need for a V8 LaCrosse or Lucerne, but those models (both Supers) are the models that are most visually appealing. I wish they would offer an appearance pkg for both cars that gave you at least some of the look of the Super without jumping all the way up to the big motor.

[Michael_S]

Originally Posted by 1G6

I'm sure it's for the Super/Northstar.

I hunted around the GM media website, and you're correct.
This is the official GM excel document for the 2007 Lucerne Northstar V8 transmission and it lists the final drive ratios as 3.11 or 3.71.
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...8MH1%29APP.xls

So if the 3.9 Lucerne gets the 2.93 final drive, I bet fuel economy will be acceptable.