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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
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There is no gas shortage...
If you haven't noticed that gas prices are sorta high, you're either dead or live the life of a hermit..
But have you noticed that you never really have to wait in line to get your gas? Seems to be plenty of gas around. So read this.. The mainstream media is finally starting to touch on this subject but Ed Wallace, writing for Businessweek started hitting on this subject a long time ago... Quote:
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...e+with+readers BTW, Ed Wallace has created a news aggregator on his website. I've found it to be pretty damn good, especially when it comes to economic and energy related news. http://insideautomotive.com |
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GMI Mod/Camaro Fanatic
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
Awesome read man...awesome read.
I will allow this on the fact that its educational based on a current propped up crisis here in America. Leave politics out of this, and talk about the article,the facts int he article, and your opinion.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
I knew that.
There is no shortage...the last time I've had to wait in line for gas was 2005. Prices are being driven up because of increased demand (why not make more money out of the deal), increased investment into drilling (about 50 mil to drill an well and many are dry).... There are reasons for prices to be higher, but there is something else going on. Many thing some commodities are being bought up at a higher price because it's an election year and for "turmoil" in the mid east. |
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: May 2005
Drives: 2008 Saturn Sky
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
That was a terrific piece. Beyond the issue at hand (supposed fuel shortage), I think pieces like this popping up and getting more attention will slowly educate the public about the mass deception were are fed by our government. There are people and companies getting very rich off of this entire fuel/oil scam and it's all courtesy of largely clueless Americans.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
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I think it was a bad idea to let them merge. The problem is that oil treated like a commodity so there is less competition. The system isn't set up in a way that promotes competition. |
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6.2 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Under the California Sun
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
The other day on the news they reported that several refineries in California were actually cutting back on production because there is actually an excess of supply. The gas prices are artificially high, it's no secret, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, gas companies are dinosaurs, and all dinosaurs will die.
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
Like all speculative bubbles, this one will eventually pop and prices will came back in line with fundamentals... For now, the oil casino is still open for business.
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
The article speaks at length of the deception from the Energy Secretary and president. And, as we know, big corporations and government have a very interwoven relationship. The deception and mismanagement is coming from them both yet much of the public (and the government) puts blame almost solely on the big bad oil companies.
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
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Refinery capacity is running around 85% nationwide. They started cutting back production a few months ago so this is not due to the change to summer gasoline blends. They cutting back because their profit margins started shrinking drastically as oil prices jumped. Their sole reason for cutting back is to intentionally raise prices at the wholesale level so they can increase those margins. Even when we start switching to summer gasoline blends refinery production usually doesn't drop below 90%. |
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
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That speculation is being driven by hedge funds. The same kind of hedge funds that created the subprime lending bubble. When that bubble popped you saw how many banks nearly folded. Well, the same is going to happen when the oil bubble pops but its only going to be worse. You see, these hedge funds only supply about 10% of their own cash for speculative buying. The rest is borrowed from banks. When the oil bubble pops and those banks call in the loans,..... well, the excrement is going to hit the fan and WE are going to be left holding the bag.. |
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3.6 Liter V6
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
Thats BS a cars computer cant regulate between E10 all the way to E85 but we have to switch blends because it gets too cold overnight. Where is the advancement in that tech?
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 353
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
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MOST gas is now E10 period. Summer blends involve changing the refining process and the additives put into gas. Many E10 formulations are created with splash blending (which sucks) which doesn't need a refinery to take place. It is basically just mixing the two together... |
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
Please re-read the article. The ExxonMobil CEO said that oil prices are high because of speculation, not costs. It was President Bush and Energy Secretary Sam Bodman who lied, not the oil tycoons.
I'm sure the oil industry executives are quite happy with the situation. But they aren't the ones deceiving us right now. On the other hand, there's an old saying. "If you aren't liberal when you're a young adult, you have no heart. If you aren't conservative when you're middle aged, you have no brain." Mostly I'm kicking myself for not buying oil futures in 2002. ![]() |
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: There is no gas shortage...
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But then that is just part of the problem. Another is the consolidation of refinery ownership. Another is our own government regulation (too much on one area, too little in another) Then of course there is greed. Don't get me wrong, greed isn't a totally bad thing when it comes to business but some people just want it all and don't care who they screw to get it. |
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