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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr
    Oh yeah definately a DS (you could say the DS is "traction avant" but it's way more advanced than a Traction Avant)... you know you must be in France when a DS doesn't even merit mention about funky old cars...
    Which has to be the most modern looking 1955 vehicle ever.

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    Well at the time, probably the most dated-looking 1955 vehicle! But now, the lines look so timeless as any other (say American) '55 model looks horribly dated, right down to 1955. It was weird how the DS had that state-of-the-art hydropneumatic suspension (you didn't even need a jack, just start the engine and the car will pressurize the other 3 wheels and support the car!) but still had that 1934-technology Traction Avant engine! No wonder nobody bought them in North America. Well a lot of people did, but they rusted out in about 12 days.

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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr
    Kinda looks like the unhappy offspring of an E-type and a Fiat X1/9. I used to want a Matra Bagheera with the 3-abreast seats though.
    Good call! I was thinking that the front looked like an edgy Jaguar E-Type and the back looks like a Corvair, but you are dead-on that the middle/greenhouse/cockpit looks like a Fiat X1/9. If those three parts went together a bit better, I'd really like it. As it stands though, that Renault 15 is my favorite so far. Maybe not pretty, but I think, very attractive. Has a little bit of a Scirocco/Corrado look to the proportions, and it's otherwise a clean design.





    I do see just a hint of AMC Gremlin in that back end, although I don't know how many people would agree...


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    Re: Old French cars

    speaking of old French cars, here a link to a French article about the Hotchkiss, a former French luxury car maker
    http://www.monvolant.ca/article/2006...=1159878138578
    here the Wikipedia entry about Hotchkiss
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotchkiss_%28automobile%29
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotchkiss_et_Cie

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    I had a Renault Fuego Turbo... what a piece of junk! It spent more time at the dealer's than my garage. Within 6 months I had a disintergrated transmission and turbocharger.

    Here are the only 2 French cars I like, the Renault Alpine A310 and R5 Turbo


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    Re: Old French cars

    I came across this today, and looked up a little info on Wikipedia. Apparently Matra was bought out by Talbot at one point, and the cars were branded with both names.







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    I think Matra was part of SIMCA for a long time (since late 1960's or so). SIMCA got bought out by Chrysler, Chrysler merged SIMCA with the Rootes Group in the UK to make Chrysler Europe, which was a complete and total disaster and Chrysler gave it to Peugeot, which renamed all the Chryslers "Talbots".

    The Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon actually were derived from the Chrysler Horizon in Europe, just with some detail modifications and fitted with a VW engine. After a while, they started using a "Peugeot 1.6 litre" engine in them here, but that 1.6 was actually the original engine for the car, but Peugeot now owned Chrysler Europe (and sold Talbot Horizons). Hehe.

    The Rancho was made off of some Simca chassis, potentially the (predominantly French) "Chrysler Alpine", either that or the (predominantly English) Horizon. So it's actually a crossover vehicle, in 1982.

    The Renault 17 coupe rear looks a lot like a Gremlin, crossed over with a 1968-1970 Dodge Charger - note the "flying butresses" back there. Even the paint looks a bit like the General Lee ;>

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    The Renault 17 coupe was sold here in the US in the mid 70's as the Renault Gordini Coupe, whatever that is supposed to mean?, it had a real nifty sliding electric canvas sunroof, it was the predecesor to the "awsome" Fuego.

    The Peugot 504 is nice, it looks like the body is Italian, which no doubt helps.

    About one of the only few French cars that I like is the the Citroen SM with the Maserati engine.

    Anyone notice the 70's Corvettes in the first photo? Viva la Difference....

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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by MCGARRETT
    Anyone notice the 70's Corvettes in the first photo? Viva la Difference....
    Oh yeah... there were several really nice Corvettes, and a couple Camaros and a late 60's Mustang. One early 80's Camaro was in beautiful shape... it looked alot like BigAl's but was white. People were loving the Detroit iron... I just didn't take any pics because for me they're almost common and I've gotten used to seeing them over the years!
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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488
    This is probably my favourite old French car: the Peugeot 504 convertible. Again, not sure what year this one is, but it was really stunning and in fantastic shape. I see these from time to time, and would love to own one someday:


    That's a beauty. Always liked those. Nice pics.

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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488
    I came across this today, and looked up a little info on Wikipedia. Apparently Matra was bought out by Talbot at one point, and the cars were branded with both names.


    OMG! I used to own one of these in that same color!

































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    Quote Originally Posted by MCGARRETT
    The Renault 17 coupe was sold here in the US in the mid 70's as the Renault Gordini Coupe, whatever that is supposed to mean?, it had a real nifty sliding electric canvas sunroof, it was the predecesor to the "awsome" Fuego.
    Gordini was a French company specialising in engine tuning. In the 60's and 70's cars tuned in their workshop, mostly Renault's, were successful in European rallys. At some point the company was acquired by Renault and continued as an engine tuning unit the products of which were put in high-performance versions of various Renault models and usually labeled "Gordini". I think they still use Gordini name.

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    a late luxury French car maker, the Facel-Vega, a French car powered by a Chrysler engine

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    Finally! And all these years I felt so out of place loving these cars...

    Luckily for me, I finally got to witness some of these things in person this summer at the Ypsilanti Orphan Car Show, just outside of Ann Arbor.



    While there wasn't a M350 there, there was a D'Jet, it's (uglier) predecessor, a Facel Vega, and quite a few Citroens.





    There's also a guy in town here who has a beautiful Dyane - I drool over it everytime I hear that air-cooled twin coming up on my car in traffic.

    Just a question - am I the only one who think it'd be neat to try to take a Matra-Simca Bagheera to a Mopar show here in the US?

    Technically, it qualifies as one...so too would a Humber.
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    Re: Old French cars

    Quote Originally Posted by paul8488
    Oh yeah... there were several really nice Corvettes, and a couple Camaros and a late 60's Mustang. One early 80's Camaro was in beautiful shape... it looked alot like BigAl's but was white. People were loving the Detroit iron... I just didn't take any pics because for me they're almost common and I've gotten used to seeing them over the years!
    Everyone must have been looking at you weird since you were snapping photos of dime-a-dozen French cars

    I always really liked the heavy style of the Facel-Vega Facel II -



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