Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

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    Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    God Bless Youtube!

    Here's an interesting series of videos, I thought you folks would like to watch. It's hosted by motor mouth Sir Jeremy Clarkson and it's a great insight into history:

    PART 1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G35fSv2FSlE

    PART 2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsWqJNpdAYQ

    PART 3:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5C2dmluqII

    And that's why Britain have no car industry left.

    The last time I tried to support the British motoring industry, buying a 2002 Rover 25 for my wife. It died on her with only 2.000 miles. Not to mention the car came riddled with faults from the assembly line.

    The death of the British car industry is (very) sad. But you can't help thinking that we had it coming. How on earth, a country that gave the world, the Aston Martin DB5, Jaguar E-Type, Jaguar XJ220, McLaren F1 and Range-Rover. Could come up, with something cathastrophically horrendous like the Austin Allegro?

    "Jeremy Clarkson's Cars Years" was originally exhibited in 2000. It was done between the old clinical/boring Top Gear format aired until 2001, and the arrival of the "bold" politically incorrect new series in 2002.

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    Very similar to what happend to British motorcycles. Honda in particular built better "British" bikes than Norton, Triumph etc. Although triumph has made a nice comeback.

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    British Leyland at its best...





    ...shame about the quality, though.

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    Thanks for the video links. Doesn't Leyland still manufacture trucks?

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    GM's problems now, in some ways mirrors Leyland's back then. It's almost the exact same thing I said the first day I joined this forum - too many brands, not enough focus (and of course, everyone jumped on me for saying that). Step one for me would be to divest GM of Saturn and GMC and then figure out what to do with Pontiac and Buick.

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    LUCAS!

    You know, Brits are used to drinking warm beer, cuz Lucas, makes refrigerators too...
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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    Kowalski,

    I wanted a Rover ever since I saw one on the Thames TV show Dempsey and Makepeace back in the Mid 80's....Thanks for the memories.........

    Ken

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    You have fun with that Rover
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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    The Rover Vitesse is a pretty good looking car, but one can tell just by those pictures that it is pretty casual in the quality department. The headlamps do not line up, the headlamps do not line up with the hood, I could stick my finger between the doors, etc.
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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarlix
    Thanks for the video links. Doesn't Leyland still manufacture trucks?
    Leyland was absorbed by PACCAR (an American truck company). I believe LDV (Leyland-DAF) is now owned by a Russian firm.

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    As I recall, it was greedy, clueless unions supporting no-quality assembly lines and lazy disinterested workers, poor vehicle reliability (I owned a 1966 Rover 2000--the service manager urged me to sell it after bringing it in about 50 times), weak dealer organization, the Prince of Darkness electrics (Lucas), corporate arrogance and lack of reality-based thinking and planning, lack of awareness of the competition's advances and strengths, an empire in decline...

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    ^^It was more than that. Austin was in a dominant position when Austin and Nuffield merged in 1952. Officially they merged on 1 April, but for the public only they moved the date ahead so as to not give off any negative vibes because of what 1 April stands for. In addition, BMC lost money on every car designed by Sir Alec even though Sir George Harriman trusted Sir Alec to the very end. In hindsight, however, had Sir Leonard Lord (oops, Lord Lambury) not been booted out by Nuffield, this entire debacle wouldn't have happened in the first place. Guess Sir Leonard Lord is rolling in his grave right now seeing where MGR went, since he was right when he said "Tommy, I'm going to tear this place apart brick by bloody brick."
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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    Quote Originally Posted by F14CRAZY
    LUCAS!

    You know, Brits are used to drinking warm beer, cuz Lucas, makes refrigerators too...
    My favorite, though. was a poster I once saw (I'm still kicking myself for not buying it).

    It had a Victorian-era woman in a big dress vacuuming her flat. A banner across the top of the poster read "Lucas Vacuum Cleaners" and across the bottom was another banner reading "If it's a Lucus, It Sucks!"

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    Re: Have you ever wondered who killed the British car industry?

    The Titanic had Lucas iceberg detectors.

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    ^^No, I think those iceberg detectors were either from GEC, Marconi, or our our own two eyes.
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