Free-market icon (Icahn) says U.S. must bail out GM

mjd1001 · 11-15-2008, 12:09 PM

Billionaire activist investor Carl Icahn doesn’t like big government—except now, that is.

Speaking at a small gathering of hedge funds and attorneys last night, Mr. Icahn said that federal funds should be used to bail out automakers, specifically General Motors, which he said has been crippled by exorbitant union contracts and even more wasteful management.

“Now I’m not a union guy…[but] it’s up to this company to really cut the hell out of costs. And they try and try, but they can’t. They have too many layers of bureaucracy,” he said, noting also that executive compensation at the company was too high. “I mean, God knows how many airplanes they have.”

full article here: http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pb...811139979/1036

PAULSTS1 · 11-15-2008, 12:24 PM

From what I just read, he indicated that re-inventing GM would be impossible, So why is he in favor of a bailout? Is that a man who believes in tossing money into a fire, or is he thinking about buying millions of penny shares and raking in a fortune?

Somethings smelling, and it ain't in Denmark!

johnny smallblock · 11-17-2008, 01:21 PM

I think he's saying that GM has a lot of systemic problems, many of their own making, but we have to save them for the sake of the overall economy.

How many people have to stand up for GM before Bush & Co do something to help them?

Gm_Tooler · 11-17-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny smallblock

I think he's saying that GM has a lot of systemic problems, many of their own making, but we have to save them for the sake of the overall economy.

How many people have to stand up for GM before Bush & Co do something to help them?

No amount of experts in support of or otherwise seems likely to make a difference. This is a political fight. Unions against the GOP. These socialists against.....well.....those socialists.

**ChevroletRevived** · 11-21-2008, 08:30 PM

GM just needs to become much, much leaner and hopefully conditions of such (like removal of the Jobs Bank) will be attatched to any government bailout of the Big 3 companies. In the long run, this could be a benefit to the health of the entire industry if done correctly.

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