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Old 12-16-2007, 07:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: 2009 GMC Terrain coming to US!

After GM missed the boat with replacing BOTH GMT360s with the Lambdas rather than giving GMC a BOF "professional grade" off-roader (could've been a unibody off-roader a la Jeep Grand Cherokee, but not a pregnant people mover), I realy don't see how a nice little Antara could do much damage. I am more worried that they might actually call it "Terrain", hitting a new all-time low for the company already having an established track record for mishappen and inappropriate names...

BTW, didn't the Equinox arrive only in 2005? One would expect it to solder on until at least 2011 then, otherwise I will get really mad at GM for killing it so quickly while keeping the W- and G-bodies in production for so long... The Winstorm/Captiva is a 2006 OTOH, so I'd rather see a common replacement coming with the next generation... I also don't think GM can just suddenly move that much capacity from CAMI to Ramos Arizpe...
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Although it is a re-badge I still think it's a good idea. Chevy/GMC buyers that want something smaller can than the Acadia can opt for the Terrain. Saturn buyers aren't typically looking at Chevy and GMC to begin with so I would say these don't directly overlap. Just my opinion...
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Rolf Lmfao Ftmfw!







MBARRASSING!

I knew it and posted this embarrassment in Bravada's last thread about Kuwait and I had some ignorant detractors denouncing my objection, well I get the last laugh (pun intended) and though I do not like being right about this one, I called it weeks ahead of time!

GM should be ashamed of themselves!

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Old 12-16-2007, 07:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This is a rebadge and all the replies to this post should do nothing else but lament that fact.

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Depends.

The Captiva and Antara are differentiated enough.

As long as the Terrain is differentiated from the VUE, and the Captiva becomes the Equinox then it won't be a problem.

The Acadia and Outlook do a decent job.

Although, re-badging isn't necessarily bad if the car is good. Because you never can have too much of a good car.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Awful idea. GMC (The Professional Grade brand) should not be in the compact, car-like SUV game, especially with a Acadia-grilled Saturn Vue.

One of the biggest detriments GM's brand image is their endless rebadging and the extreme amount of overlap that exists between them all. A GMC Vue is something GM really doesn't need.

If GM is going to give all these Opel products to other brands than why even bother with Saturn? Why put all that investment into it's image if you're just going to muddy it by selling the same stuff elsewhere? Why weaken Saturn and GMC's brand images? And who seriously celebrates stuff like this? They might as well give the Astra to Chevrolet too while they're at it.

This is another example of GM repeating the same mistakes that have gotten them where they are today. GMC/Pontiac dealers can be pointing those trading in Torrents at the upcoming Pontiac G8 Sportwagon that will be in the showroom soon.
The Antara isn't an Opal product per say.

Also, I'd like to suggest that the next Equinox will be a Chevy Captiva, and that the Terrain (in the US) will be a combination of the Captiva and VUE, so in theory none of them will be a direct re-badge of the other, but they will all be closely related.

Worst case the GMC is a re-badged Captiva.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's better only because there should never, ever be a SUV/CUV in Pontiac's lineup unless it's a rebadged Porsche Cayenne. GMC is nothing but a rebadge division so why not give it to them? I just think it's the best decision GM could make.
Right on the spot.

Although the GMC is more likely to be a Captiva/Equinox rebadge than a VUE one here in the US.
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Although, re-badging isn't necessarily bad if the car is good. Because you never can have too much of a good car.
Corvette is an awesome car. Care to rebadge that?
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They do, that is what an XLR basically is.
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Awful idea. GMC (The Professional Grade brand) should not be in the compact, car-like SUV game, especially with a Acadia-grilled Saturn Vue.

One of the biggest detriments GM's brand image is their endless rebadging and the extreme amount of overlap that exists between them all. A GMC Vue is something GM really doesn't need.

If GM is going to give all these Opel products to other brands than why even bother with Saturn? Why put all that investment into it's image if you're just going to muddy it by selling the same stuff elsewhere? Why weaken Saturn and GMC's brand images? And who seriously celebrates stuff like this? They might as well give the Astra to Chevrolet too while they're at it.

This is another example of GM repeating the same mistakes that have gotten them where they are today. GMC/Pontiac dealers can be pointing those trading in Torrents at the upcoming Pontiac G8 Sportwagon that will be in the showroom soon.
I completely agree with you on this one. GM can't resist the lure of some easy bucks even if it means it could hurt one of its brands in the long run.

I don't completely buy the fact that Pontiac is going back to its RWD performance roots. If they were serious than the G5 and G6 would die ASAP and the new Vibe would not exist at all as a Pontiac.

I hate to break the news to some people, but there are a few highly regarded European luxury/performance brands that have successfully integrated SUV's into their line-ups. Namely, Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche. I don't necessarily agree with it, but if done right, it would not harm the brands image at all.
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This is GMi freakout worthy.
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I completely agree with you on this one. GM can't resist the lure of some easy bucks even if it means it could hurt one of its brands in the long run.

I don't completely buy the fact that Pontiac is going back to its RWD performance roots. If they were serious than the G5 and G6 would die ASAP and the new Vibe would not exist at all as a Pontiac.

I hate to break the news to some people, but there are a few highly regarded European luxury/performance brands that have successfully integrated SUV's into their line-ups. Namely, Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche. I don't necessarily agree with it, but if done right, it would not harm the brands image at all.
Make an alpha-based Torrent and all is well. Caddy should have one too.
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Re: Rebadged Saturn Vue To Be 2009 GMC Terrain, Says Report

So, one can choose between a saturn vue, gmc vue, and a caddy vue next year? sweet! j/k....
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Crazy! Rebadging is the work of the devil! One product + One market = One brand!
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I agree with atomicshark on both points.

What valid reason is there why Pontiac can't have a RWD crossover? Are some of you seriously suggesting that vehicles like the Infiniti FX get cross-shopped with Pilots and Acadias? No, Pontiac doesn't need a FWD grocery-getter-with-twin-kidneys Crossover. Although I think a coupe-like cute-ute along the lines of the Daewoo T2X concept would have fit nicely in the Pontiac line, in lieu of the Torrent, and possibly replacing the Vibe, and might have brought in young buyers.

And I'm curious to know what this "all-RWD" Pontiac lineup is going to consist of? Alpha-Solstice-G8? If that's going to be Pontiac's whole lineup, why bother with the brand at all? They'll need something to fill out the range, so why not a BMW X3-like crossover companion to the upcoming Alpha sedan? I find it hard to believe that such a vehicle wouldn't find a ready and willing market.

I believe most GM fans are simply TOO nostalgic about Pontiac. Draw on part of the brand's past and use that to create a Pontiac that fits in with today's market.

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