No V8 For Colorado/Canyon Until 2009

[rumble bee]

Originally Posted by VMax2007

Well, since the 2-modes are aimed at city driving, that makes sense. GM even said the 2-modes are not meant for people who drive mostly HWY, the 2-mode benefits stop and go driving.

Think your precious dodge will get 20 MPGs in the City? That is the number MOST pick-up buyers look at since MOST people that drive a truck do not drive on the freeway the majority of the time.

Okay, advancing the argument back to where we initially started

Think your precious 'hottest truck on the road' GM with the 6.2/6 speed auto will get 20mpgs city?( Got 'em)

I think my point is made, since the link to that discussion was just to catch you up and not to compare the 2mode to the HEMI, but rather the 6.2 to the HEMI

Plus, I don't know as this is a REAL fact, BTW. I'd like you to back this up please

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

Okay, advancing the argument back to where we initially started

Think your precious 'hottest truck on the road' GM with the 6.2/6 speed auto will get 20mpgs city?( Got 'em)

I think my point is made, since the link to that discussion was just to catch you up and not to compare the 2mode to the HEMI, but rather the 6.2 to the HEMI

Plus, I don't know as this is a REAL fact, BTW. I'd like you to back this up please

We'll just wait and see which gets better OVERALL real-world mileage, ok? My money is on GM's 6.2. Until then it's all speculation. But based on Dodge's history of the Hemi being a gas pig, I am pretty sure it will lose. But you can hang your hat on this hwy MPG speculation for now if it makes ya feel better.

BTW, how the hell do you "advance" something "back"?

[rumble bee]

Originally Posted by VMax2007

We'll just wait and see which gets better OVERALL real-world mileage, ok? My money is on GM's 6.2. Until then it's all speculation. But based on Dodge's history of the Hemi being a gas pig, I am pretty sure it will lose. But you can hang your hat on this hwy MPG speculation for now if it makes ya feel better.

BTW, how the hell do you "advance" something "back"?

I can hardly type man, is this the best you can do. And you were talking about me being defensive yesterday? Sounds like somebody missed breakfast


BTW, I was being sarcastic by saying that since you were not even aware that the HEMI's highway mileage was class leading

I'll quote our very own Vmax

Oh really? Care to back that up with some actual facts/numbers?

C'mon man, this is over and you know it too Just let it die

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

I can hardly type man, is this the best you can do. And you were talking about me being defensive yesterday? Sounds like somebody missed breakfast


BTW, I was being sarcastic by saying that since you were not even aware that the HEMI's highway mileage was class leading

I'll quote our very own Vmax


C'mon man, this is over and you know it too Just let it die

Oh really, I haven't seen any facts yet? Talk is cheap.

[rumble bee]

Originally Posted by VMax2007

Oh really, I haven't seen any facts yet? Talk is cheap.

Sure man, anything can happen, the HEMI may do better then the 2 mode and worse then the 6.2 in fuel economy and I may find a Brand new 2008 Viper truck that gets the mileage of a VW bug

Your right, talk is cheap. Anything can happen, and anything is possible if you try hard enough or smoke up enough

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

Sure man, anything can happen, the HEMI may do better then the 2 mode and worse then the 6.2 in fuel economy and I may find a Brand new 2008 Viper truck that gets the mileage of a VW bug

Your right, talk is cheap. Anything can happen, and anything is possible if you try hard enough or smoke up enough

You talk about this article as "fact", when in reality it's all speculation. Save your bragging rights for when/IF it happens. Until then, it's all talk, nothing more.

Here is the article, please show me where it states any FACTS about MPG numbers, I highlighted the speculative words for you:

2009 Dodge Ram with Hemi V8 could top segment in fuel economy.

Dodge may be having trouble moving the ‘08 Rams off dealers’ lots, but the all-new 2009 model will likely grab more pickup truck buyers’ attention thanks to a significant bump in fuel economy. The 2009 model will net as much as a 20 percent fuel economy improvement over the outgoing model.

The fuel economy gains have been made through improvements to the truck itself, as well as improvements to Dodge’s 5.7L Hemi V8.
Dodge engineers worked diligently to make the 2009 Ram more aerodynamic, and even managed to shave 80 pounds off the truck’s curb-weight. Despite the Ram’s more powerful 5.7L V8 engine — now producing 380 horsepower and 404 lb-ft or torque — the engine is about 5 percent more efficient than the one found in the 2008 model.
These factors combined will improve the 2009 Ram’s highway fuel economy by as much as 20 percent. “We expect to see a 10 to 20 percent gain in highway efficiency,” Mike Cairns, the Ram’s chief engineer, told The Detroit Free press.
A two-wheel drive 2008 Ram equipped with a Hemi V8 returns about 19 mpg on the highway, meaning the new model could potentially achieve 23 mpg on the highway — a figure that would be tops in the segment.
Dodge sold just under 360,000 Ram pickups in the U.S. last year — taking the number three overall spot — and is hoping the new model will help boost this year’s sales. Through April, Ram sales were down 24 percent.
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[rumble bee]

Originally Posted by VMax2007

You talk about this article as "fact", when in reality it's all speculation. Save your bragging rights for when/IF it happens. Until then, it's all talk, nothing more.

Here is the article, please show me where it states any FACTS about MPG numbers, I highlighted the speculative words for you:

2009 Dodge Ram with Hemi V8 could top segment in fuel economy.

Dodge may be having trouble moving the ‘08 Rams off dealers’ lots, but the all-new 2009 model will likely grab more pickup truck buyers’ attention thanks to a significant bump in fuel economy. The 2009 model will net as much as a 20 percent fuel economy improvement over the outgoing model.

The fuel economy gains have been made through improvements to the truck itself, as well as improvements to Dodge’s 5.7L Hemi V8.
Dodge engineers worked diligently to make the 2009 Ram more aerodynamic, and even managed to shave 80 pounds off the truck’s curb-weight. Despite the Ram’s more powerful 5.7L V8 engine — now producing 380 horsepower and 404 lb-ft or torque — the engine is about 5 percent more efficient than the one found in the 2008 model.
These factors combined will improve the 2009 Ram’s highway fuel economy by as much as 20 percent. “We expect to see a 10 to 20 percent gain in highway efficiency,” Mike Cairns, the Ram’s chief engineer, told The Detroit Free press.
A two-wheel drive 2008 Ram equipped with a Hemi V8 returns about 19 mpg on the highway, meaning the new model could potentially achieve 23 mpg on the highway — a figure that would be tops in the segment.
Dodge sold just under 360,000 Ram pickups in the U.S. last year — taking the number three overall spot — and is hoping the new model will help boost this year’s sales. Through April, Ram sales were down 24 percent.
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So, are you now arguing for it doing worse then the 2mode or the 6.2? Sorry I have to ask

This is all but in the books

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

So, are you now arguing for it doing worse then the 2mode or the 6.2? Sorry I have to ask

This is all but in the books

Neither. I am saying what you stated as "fact" is nothing but pure speculation.

once again...you FAIL!

[rumble bee]

Dang man, really...You buried me again. Your up 3 to 1. LMAO! Your never going to live that down.

Oh yeah, and let me also ask what makes your statement that you think the HEMI will do worse then predicted in fuel economy any less specualtion then the article above?

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

Dang man, really...You buried me again. Your up 3 to 1. LMAO! Your never going to live that down.

Oh yeah, and let me also ask what makes your statement that you think the HEMI will do worse then predicted in fuel economy any less specualtion then the article above?

Did I say it was a "fact" that it won't? Nope, stop putting words in my mouth Dodgeboy.


Live what down? You are easier fanboy prey than the Toyota fanboys.

[theoldchevykid]

Originally Posted by VMax2007

Did I say it was a "fact" that it won't? Nope, stop putting words in my mouth Dodgeboy.


Live what down? You are easier fanboy prey than the Toyota fanboys.

Max2007 you are the champstop arguing with this kid.
Just a reminder the discussion is about Colorado/Canyons V8 engine. I was one of the guys for the V8, but now i wish GM would offer a V6gas and the new 4.5 V8 diesel instead the gas V8.

[CHASLS2]

You 2 guys still at it? Only way i would have a Hemi is if it's in a small regcab pickup, not some big ship.

[VMax2007]

Originally Posted by CHASLS2

You 2 guys still at it? Only way i would have a Hemi is if it's in a small regcab pickup, not some big ship.

Only way I'd have a Hemi is if I sit too long.


Actually, I like the looks of the 09 Ram. It's a nice truck. But as long as GM keeps me happy, there won't be one in my garage.

[thehemi]

How much is the V8 option going to cost? MSRP and Invoice, if available.

[absmith]

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