GM to shift small crossover to GMC

[1BadPig]

Many dealers carry both GMC and Pontiac... is this just a wash? This further eliminates the need for GMC IMO.


Chevrolet GMC
Silverado -----------> Sierra
Avalanche ----------> N/A
Tahoe --------------> Yukon
Suburban -----------> Yukon XL
Colorado ------------> Canyon
Equinox ------------> Terrain
Traverse ------------> Acadia
Trailblazer -----------> Envoy

Why does GM need GMC again (besides being "professional grade", whatever that means)?

[tripowergto]

Originally Posted by 1BadPig

Why does GM need GMC again (besides being "professional grade", whatever that means)?

Nearly 400,000 GMC sales per year... that's why!

[bone]

Originally Posted by 1BadPig

Many dealers carry both GMC and Pontiac... is this just a wash? This further eliminates the need for GMC IMO.


Chevrolet GMC
Silverado -----------> Sierra
Avalanche ----------> N/A
Tahoe --------------> Yukon
Suburban -----------> Yukon XL
Colorado ------------> Canyon
Equinox ------------> Terrain
Traverse ------------> Acadia
Trailblazer -----------> Envoy

Why does GM need GMC again (besides being "professional grade", whatever that means)?

GMC fits in very well with Pontiac/Buick. They have always been sold that way in Canada. In fact GMC traditionally outsells Chev. There is no way a Chev stand alone truck brand would come close to selling as many vehicles as the combined Chev/GMC brands. Also,GMC does not cost G.M. very much to engineer and produce since it is basically a Chevy.

[skylark68]

I'm glad it won't be a Pontiac anymore. GMC makes more sense, even if it is FWD. Most Pontiac dealers carry GMC, so why not sell it under the Professional Grade's banner. Pontiac is getting the Ute and possibly a wagon so it makes sense to move the Torrent.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 1BadPig

Many dealers carry both GMC and Pontiac... is this just a wash? This further eliminates the need for GMC IMO.


Chevrolet GMC
Silverado -----------> Sierra
Avalanche ----------> N/A
Tahoe --------------> Yukon
Suburban -----------> Yukon XL
Colorado ------------> Canyon
Equinox ------------> Terrain
Traverse ------------> Acadia
Trailblazer -----------> Envoy

Why does GM need GMC again (besides being "professional grade", whatever that means)?

GMC is basically the upgraded version of Chevy's trucks/SUVs. They appeal to middle class buyers who want a little luxury in their cars but don't feel like paying out the roof for an Escalade or something.

[K Dawg ONE]

Originally Posted by mikeymo84

which vehicle locator are you referring to?? gmdealerworld?? i cant find it in there at all

Its through GM Access (im in Canada)
Since im at work now, here are the actual codes:
TLS26 - Terrain LS
TLT26 - Terrain LT
And a pic for those who havent seen the the Kuwait-version:


Strangely enough, I also found these (bye-bye Nox, hello Captiva?):
RLC26 - Captiva FWD Base
RLD26 - Captiva FWD LT
RLF26 - Captiva AWD LT
RLG26 - Captiva AWD LTZ

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

GMC is basically the upgraded version of Chevy's trucks/SUVs. They appeal to middle class buyers who want a little luxury in their cars but don't feel like paying out the roof for an Escalade or something.

Exactly!

(When I bought my 2007 GMC Yukon XL Denali, it was $4000 more than a loaded (similarly optioned) Suburban LTZ, but had a more powerful engine and the 6 speed auto. The jump from the Yukon XL Denali to the Escalade ESV, similarly optioned, was $9000...actually $12,000 when you factored in the $3k incentive on the GMC versus the Caddy ($0) at the time. I didn't think that slightly nicer interior materials, a longer warranty, and a bigger LCD screen on the dash (and maybe a couple of other minor differences) justified an extra $12k from me...but your mileage may vary, LOL!)

[FenwickHockey65]

Wait, so is the Terrain going to have LS/LT trim levels? Because GMCs always had SLE/SLT trim levels.

And that Captiva looks pretty nice.

[pinyon]

Originally Posted by K Dawg ONE

Could we also see the new Caddy out of Cami and perhaps the VUE shift production there too?

I doubt it. The Vue has always been on a SWB version of theta and made elsewhere and I'd guess that will continue. The Caddy is supposed to be on the theta/epsilon platform so once again I think the Mexico plans stay in place.

[johnny smallblock]

1. Obviously GMC will keep with it's own model designation letters - to think otherwise is to ignore common sense.

2. GMC is justified because every truck it sells earns GM more profit then it would if Chevy sold it. Plus, average household incomes for Yukon Denali owners are actually higher then for Escalade owners. So GMC brings people in who aren't attracted to other GM brands.

[GMCdriver]

Originally Posted by johnny smallblock

1. Obviously GMC will keep with it's own model designation letters - to think otherwise is to ignore common sense.

2. GMC is justified because every truck it sells earns GM more profit then it would if Chevy sold it. Plus, average household incomes for Yukon Denali owners are actually higher then for Escalade owners. So GMC brings people in who aren't attracted to other GM brands.

I thought there was an HIDL a few years back that said that the household incomes were larger for Escalade buyers but the Total Net Worth was higher for Denali buyers.
I can't find anything to confirm right now, it is just a little factoid I seem to have retained from the days when I would sit through GM's HIDLs.

[K Dawg ONE]

Originally Posted by GMCdriver

I thought there was an HIDL a few years back that said that the household incomes were larger for Escalade buyers but the Total Net Worth was higher for Denali buyers.
I can't find anything to confirm right now, it is just a little factoid I seem to have retained from the days when I would sit through GM's HIDLs.

LOL...HIDLs...lol...if Laurie was doing them, id watch, lol...otherwise, i dont need the SMG points that bad, lol!

[stevecmh]

Originally Posted by tripowergto

Nearly 400,000 GMC sales per year... that's why!

yeah lets not forget that GMC sells great

[usa1]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

GMC is basically the upgraded version of Chevy's trucks/SUVs. They appeal to middle class buyers who want a little luxury in their cars but don't feel like paying out the roof for an Escalade or something.

I'm trying to think of what unique luxury features you can get on a GMC that you can't get on a Chevrolet. Except for the Denali line, I cannot think of anything unique that GMC offers over Chevrolet except a slightly different look. I'm not arguing that GMC makes sense or not, but GM needs to differentiate it more if anyone sane person is to think they are anything but re-badged Chevrolets.

Mark

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by usa1

I'm trying to think of what unique luxury features you can get on a GMC that you can't get on a Chevrolet. Except for the Denali line, I cannot think of anything unique that GMC offers over Chevrolet except a slightly different look. I'm not arguing that GMC makes sense or not, but GM needs to differentiate it more if anyone sane person is to think they are anything but re-badged Chevrolets.

Mark

I don't know about you, but I've always liked the GMC interiors better than the Chevys. I've been in a Trailblazer before, and I like my Envoy's interior much better. It just seems more upscale and classy than the Trailblazer's.