GM reopening two plants thanks to axle shipments from Mexico

[slowinthefastlane]

I pray that these are built to the same quality standards as the UAW-sourced ones. It would be a PR disaster for GM if they need to be recalled. The press would blame any Mexican axle failure on "GM's sellout of the American worker".

I don't blame GM for outsourcing the work as the UAW coupled with complacent management have been dragging the company down in one way or another for awhile now. GM has to remain competitive. They just better pull out all of the stops to ensure that they're getting a quality part, otherwise they should just ride out the strike.

[betron02]

Originally Posted by slowinthefastlane

I pray that these are built to the same quality standards as the UAW-sourced ones. It would be a PR disaster for GM if they need to be recalled. The press would blame any Mexican axle failure on "GM's sellout of the American worker".

I don't blame GM for outsourcing the work as the UAW coupled with complacent management have been dragging the company down in one way or another for awhile now. GM has to remain competitive. They just better pull out all of the stops to ensure that they're getting a quality part, otherwise they should just ride out the strike.

trust me those parts are good my grandfathers Tahoe/Sonora has them and that truck is running good

[97CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by logansowner

Screw it, keep getting them from Mexico, hard to drive a hard bargain when your product isn't needed...

I'm with you, Hoss. The UAW is a parasite that doesn't comprehend that when it kills the host it is sucking the life out of, it, in turns dies! I think back to a time not too long ago when I was giving one of our female flyers (USAF) crap for buying a Honda. Her reply, and it was quick, decisive, and honest was: I'll buy Japanese cars until the US can build one without giving my money to the #@cking unions." She was one sharp officer, I will say!!! Bye Bye UAW, we got Mexico!

[jarsworldcom]

Dude what the heck. GM Wentzville has orders that put us on OT. I talked to a dealer when truck shopping with my dad and they said that had a customers waiting on our vans. Bleck.

[Cortazzo]

Striking during a recession has to be the biggest bone-headed move american axle union workers could have done. Having a job at all is pretty good right now while things are getting tight. I want to see jobs stay in america, but I won't shed a tear for these folks.

[wildgoosechase]

The best way to end the strike is to begin to permanently move production lines to Mexico. Once the "for sale" is hung on the factory door and pink slips are in the mail, they will get the message.

[hrcslam]

Originally Posted by likearock00

Yeah!!! Our amigos from Mexico strike again! I bet the deal was that the workers would only make them if they could hand deliver them into the US.

HAHAHAHA! It's funny only because it is probably true.

Originally Posted by KillerMRK

What? They aren't being delivered to the Lucerne/DTS Plant?



BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EAGER CUSTOMERS?


owait

I would think that they would focus on the Malibu parts and such and not so much on the GMT-900's. I guess not though.

Originally Posted by treekiller

I hardly laugh out loud. when an American factory is eclipsed by a non-US source. as a matter of fact as someone in the supplier network for years it usually maddens me to no end.

however, also dealing with the unions when we were just trying to make more, better, parts and constantly fighting uphill battles, I believe this is a move in the right direction, we have to be competitive as a country. our production capacity is what makes us a true force in the global economy. hopefully with the drop in the dollar and acts of defiance like this we will teach the unions that we need to get back to rocking and rolling... PLEASE make our country competitive again and the money will follow.

I agree. More and more countries are becoming big players in the manufacturing and industrial sectors and Americans are still stuck in the old frame of mind. I don't like the fact that America is the country taking the hit with the balancing of global economy, but we can thank our government for that huh? Thanks Clinton.

Originally Posted by Cortazzo

Striking during a recession has to be the biggest bone-headed move american axle union workers could have done. Having a job at all is pretty good right now while things are getting tight. I want to see jobs stay in america, but I won't shed a tear for these folks.

You are absolutely right sir. I didn't want to leave my job here in NM, but I got injured on the job and now they aren't going to pay me workers comp or short term disability fro the time I missed at work. I found another job, thank the lord, that pays almost three times as much as I was making before I got injured, but it is a contract for only about 6 months. The only good thing about the job is that I will have all of my debt paid off except for the house. And that is what I need with the current economy status in America. If this job didn't come through then I'd be screwed. People need to look at where things are going and not where they used to be. Prepare for the future guys then the rest will fall into place.

[racy]

Originally Posted by Cortazzo

Striking during a recession has to be the biggest bone-headed move american axle union workers could have done. Having a job at all is pretty good right now while things are getting tight. I want to see jobs stay in america, but I won't shed a tear for these folks.

Best post in thread.

Our economy is in the tank, and it has not even hit bottom yet. It really makes one wonder the thought process that lead up to a strike vote.

There is another possibility - GM simply laid a new law on the table at American Axle. They said, "We can get 'em in Mexico for this price. Meet that price, or we're not buying". GM strong arms their suppliers routinely.

[unkillsam]

Originally Posted by slowinthefastlane

I pray that these are built to the same quality standards as the UAW-sourced ones. It would be a PR disaster for GM if they need to be recalled. The press would blame any Mexican axle failure on "GM's sellout of the American worker".

I don't blame GM for outsourcing the work as the UAW coupled with complacent management have been dragging the company down in one way or another for awhile now. GM has to remain competitive. They just better pull out all of the stops to ensure that they're getting a quality part, otherwise they should just ride out the strike.

Why? Camry and Tundra owners already believe that the American worker cannot build a quality product

[jarsworldcom]

Originally Posted by racy

Best post in thread.

Our economy is in the tank, and it has not even hit bottom yet. It really makes one wonder the thought process that lead up to a strike vote.

There is another possibility - GM simply laid a new law on the table at American Axle. They said, "We can get 'em in Mexico for this price. Meet that price, or we're not buying". GM strong arms their suppliers routinely.

Yes they do.

[ByTheLake]

Having the alternate source won't help the UAW's bargaining position, that's for certain. Does the Mexico plant have the capacity to replace the output from the striking US facilities?

[CaptainDan]

Originally Posted by wildgoosechase

The best way to end the strike is to begin to permanently move production lines to Mexico. Once the "for sale" is hung on the factory door and pink slips are in the mail, they will get the message.

I would hope it doesn't get to that, I certainly like the IDEA of jobs staying in the US, but this is the obvious result when you push too far.

The next time you hear a UAW member complaining about outsourcing, and jobs moving to Mexico, China, wherever, hand him a mirror.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." -Pogo.

[member12]

I am starting to think the economy isn't in the tank.

It's a downturn created by poor lending decisions by big banks and overbuilding in the housing market caused by speculation and a real estate bubble. The high gas prices and tighter lenders are pushing us into a recession, but I don't think it's as bad as the media says that it is (it's the American media...it has to be the worst thing to ever happen otherwise no one would watch). I think the oil bust in the 80s was much worse than this for my family, and high gas prices are probably helping to keep our economy afloat...lots of mining jobs and lots of industrial construction (LNG tanks, refineries and refinery expansions-yes we are building several in this country).

It's not the best time to be in the automobile business or in residential construction, but things fluctuate in a capitolist economy. 25 years ago, oil was a bad business to be in....now it's hot. High gas prices hurt car sales (and effect people's decisions), high debt hurts everyone...but high gas prices also create jobs for people in America...so it isnt' all bad. I might have an opportunity move back to Louisiana/Texas soon to take advantage of this situation.

[burningsquirrel]

effit. expand the mexico plant.

[prowlerjc]

BUWAHAHA!!!

We don't need no steenkin' unions!

Next time the union guys whine about jobs going out of the country, they should look at this thread and reminds themselves why it is happenng.