GM plant in Shreveport stays open; Hummer H3T work continues

[Cortazzo]

The 350's were really the last products made before GM started to really focus on product quality and improved interiors. People still like trucks, and they are still useful, just give the things a better interior and some of your new efficient turbo 4cyl engines (maybe the 2.0 DI turbo as the top offering @ 250-260hp). If you can make smaller Hummers with smaller and or diesel engines, they will lose some of that gas hog stigma, there can still be some hope for shreveport is GM plays its cards right.

[LARSONEM]

They used to sell a lot of the S10 and S15 trucks. When the Colorado and Canyon came along, they were just plain ugly trucks. Also why not use the 4.2L inline 6 out of the Trailblazer, instead of developing a 5 cylinder and a 4 cylinder, that really didn't get that great of gas mileage. The old 4.3L Vortec was a good motor. I had one in a 91 S15 Jimmy and the higher output 4.3L in a 95 S10 Blazer. Small wonder why they aren't on dealer lots, because people just don't want them.

[M7Mayberry]

If a manual transmission were available in the Colorado Crew Cab, there would be one in my driveway right now. Instead, I went to Saturn and bought a Vue and kept my S-10.

[rayce08]

the hummer brand is being handycapped by the H2 , i own a 07 H3 , and get 20mpg no problem , the h3 is all wheel drive at that ! imagine if it were avaliable in 2 wheel drive . i love it , regulary take it offroad for fun and people often ask about the mileage thinking im going to say 8-9 mpg , most assume a hummer is a gas hog . most people read magazines or listen too bad info when buying a car , most never shop around and see whats out there , so most do the same thing and buy the same thing .

i do think hummer is a niche brand , as it should be , i like that , it seperates me from the masses

[Gagarin]

Originally Posted by Z16monte

I much prefer my Colorado over the S10s I've driven. No, the interior isn't "Accord" quality, but it looks to be durable. The sheetmetal seems kinda flimsy but the frame is incredible. Fully boxed, bumper to bumper. Seems heavier than even the ZR2 frames of the S10s. Fuel mileage is at least as good as my co workers v6 Xcab S10 and mines a CC 5cyl. I tend to keep cars long term, Got rid of my 87 Monte with 300,000 miles to buy the Colly. What I'm not happy with is the number of times it's had to go in for service, inluding an oil leak and trans failure. All warrenteed but... still have to make arrangements to drop it off and pick it up
Ed

Man, I drove a S10 for 8 years. It was my first car. Loaded LS Xtreme.
I have to say I wanted to like the Colorados SO much. I SO wanted to like them - but the interior, which should have been an improvement, just didn't seem as thought out. It didn't even fit with the fullsize trucks at the time.

And then they didn't base it off the TrailBlazer, which I never understood...

I bragged about how the Atlas engines were doing more with less, but it didn't matter because the truck wasn't that desirable. And that's just not me - they certainly aren't selling that well, and GM has been de-contenting them the last few years. The whole thing was a blunder =(

Another thing that upsets me is these folks have been building good trucks for awhile, and I feel the engineers and product development people let them down with the Canyon and Colorado.

[breaker104]

Originally Posted by Kennyboy

GM really needs to update the Colorado and Canyon. The interior needs a total re-vamp and bigger engines.

Bigger engines? How many of you guys have driven a 3.7l 355? The power is actually quite nice, the issue is the transmissions. They need a 5-speed since the 6spd wont fit. You can race and beat an f-150 in a these trucks. I do agree the interior should be revamped, and maybe the rear end out of the H3 Alpha.

[Nelson Kyle K]

Bad Move!!!

[bigtime]

You sure the LA plant is going to be ok? Wagoner is talking about dumping hummer now, that doesn't leave much for them to do since the colorado stinks.

[Ming]

Originally Posted by 69Firebird400

Ming, you have a typo in the headline - should be H3T and not HT3. Damn alphanumerics!

Thanks, I just was lazy and copied the news headline.

[BlueMontreal]

Originally Posted by Ming

The truck horsepower wars are going nowhere at $4.00 / gallon. They don't need "bigger" engines - they need more efficient engines that make the small pickups do what they were designed to do, while using the least amount of gasoline possible. If those engines end up being bigger, then so be it. But after seeing what a 3-cylinder pickup is capable of hauling in China and Japan, I don't think "bigger" is really needed for the small trucks in GM's lineup. If the trucks are so heavy that 50 more horsepower in the 4-cyl. than an S-10 had is still "not enough" then something is wrong with the weight of the trucks. And that is why the first article mentions a steep decline in sales. Too many compromises, not enough benefits, and apparently not enough of a profit margin for good rebates.

Having a 4-cyl. or 5-cyl that gets the fuel economy of a 6-cylinder --- now that's where GM needs to step in and fix things.

I do hope that the H3 can also "cut the fat" and get those MPG numbers up without playing the horsepower wars game that is best left in the earlier part of this decade.

I4 and I5 need DI and 6 speed auto.

[t-rex]

Originally Posted by BlueMontreal

I4 and I5 need DI and 6 speed auto.

The I4 and I5 need to disappear entirely. They're rough, unrefined, thirsty engines. The Ecotec 2400, the 3500/3900 V6, or even the HF 3600 V6 (which Holden uses in its Colorado equivalent) would all make vastly more appropriate powerplants.

One begs to wonder why GM wasted money developing the I4 and I5 when they already had several off-the-shelf engines that would have worked much better.

[stevecmh]

down 70% dang.

i guess u see alot less of them.. but wow

[Supernoma]

Originally Posted by t-rex

The I4 and I5 need to disappear entirely. They're rough, unrefined, thirsty engines. The Ecotec 2400, the 3500/3900 V6, or even the HF 3600 V6 (which Holden uses in its Colorado equivalent) would all make vastly more appropriate powerplants.

One begs to wonder why GM wasted money developing the I4 and I5 when they already had several off-the-shelf engines that would have worked much better.

GM was in the works to bring a 4.0L V6 (based on the 3.5/3.9)to market, but it was scrapped. The HFV6 is suspose to be the base engine for the H3 in the next 2-3 years, hopefully it will carry over and replace the I5.

[wpageabc]

To the point...
If they sell Hummer...
Shreveport H3T work?