Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals

roteague · 03-25-2006, 11:25 PM

GM pulls it out in duel with rivals

"BEISEKER, ALTA.—It's no wonder General Motors set the public introduction of the new diesel and transmission powertrain for its pickup line right here in oil country — four of every 10 sales of heavy duty diesel pickups are to oilpatchers.

Therein lay another problem, though. With no new pickup until next year, what to do? GM laid on a drag strip!

To show off the performance of the new 6.6 L Duramax diesel and six-speed Allison transmission in its 2006 truck, GM brought along the current diesel-powered offerings from Ford and Dodge."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=970599119419

turbossr · 03-28-2006, 07:44 PM

Yay for GM. That Alison Transmission is very nice.

The Dodge is the nicest truck IMO. I just love that big rig styling.

the prix · 03-28-2006, 08:40 PM

Thats my dream truck right there. I win the lottery, I'm buying one. Someone every pisses me off, I won't fight 'em, Ill just snatch their house off of its foundation.

One day................

RamJet502 · 03-28-2006, 09:50 PM

There have been quite a few Powerstroke fans running their mouths on this website lately. I hope this will bring them back to reality. They know who they are.

silveradohd2k5 · 03-29-2006, 03:24 PM

The new 6.6 has more torque than both ford at 590 and Dodge at 610... I would hope it could out pull the competition... Great to see them show that GM has the advantage in the Diesel Market

chevyguy04 · 03-30-2006, 09:50 PM

Don't quote me on this, but i have heard from a couple sources, that they are working on the new alison tranny, and they are designing it to handle 800-1000 lb ft of torque, i was pumped when i heard that, becuz you know what that means, a STRONGER DURAMAX. Thats right GM makes the best diesel truck. I have personally experienced all the diesels and no question the duramax will blow them away. The dodge doesn't know how to shift and all the shifts are hard, and the ford has major turbo lag. My next truck will for sure be a Duramax, But just got my truck in Nov, so i have to keep it for a couple years, give the new trucks one year to get the kinks out.

Keep it GM i Love the SUVs lets see seom awesome trucks.

Dealernut · 03-30-2006, 10:16 PM

The new 6 speed is a powerful truck. I have several friends who pull 10 to 20k on a regular basis(not on a grade) and they love them. All of them have jumped from one truck to the other. They all came back to the Sierra because of how they pulled.

AndrewGS · 04-04-2006, 04:41 AM

After recently spending some time at both Ford and Dodge dealers looking around at everything including HD trucks, I'd rather have the "old" GMT-800 Heavy-Duty anyways.

SuperSS27 · 04-04-2006, 11:05 AM

Im glad someone found this article. My friend and I were just arguing about the new 6.6L Duramax w/Allison vs. his 2000 F350 with the power stroke. He thinks if they hooked up, he would pull it around like it was nothing. This will show his ass.

ctaylorzl1 · 04-04-2006, 11:26 AM

The Duramax is a really great engine, I wish I could have afforded one when I bought my Ram, The Duramax is just to expensive. I looked at a few 01/02 Silverados with the Duramax, even the ones with 150K+ miles were $20K+, I got my 96 Ram with 172K+ miles ans it runs like new. I expect it to go for atleast 400K+, Im not sure if I would trus a Duramax to do 400K like the Cummins will, mabey the would I dont know. That and the Silverado's sit about the same height as a 2wd Ram. But If I could pick a new one I would deffinatly pick a Duramax. Even though I think the new Rams look best, & have tons more interior space. IMP

ChevroletTough · 04-04-2006, 01:16 PM

you can't mess with a name like Allison.

(and thats the way the cookie crumbles)

FamilyTruckster · 04-04-2006, 01:39 PM

Where are all the Ford lovers?

coaster.n3rd · 04-04-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FamilyTruckster

Where are all the Ford lovers?

Still shifting from first to second.

01cavalier · 04-04-2006, 02:42 PM

Well of course the gearing helps. The 5-speed Allison would have done the same I think, since the only change was the addition of the 6th gear on top of 5th. Still, the extra torque helps too...and of course that the Duramax has its peak at 1600 RPM, same as the Cummins. The Ford has it's peak at 2000.

FamilyTruckster · 04-04-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Where are all the Ford lovers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd

Still shifting from first to second.

That's the funniest reply I've heard in ages. Good One!

03-25-2006, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
roteague 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kaneohe, HI Posts: 1,437	Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals GM pulls it out in duel with rivals "BEISEKER, ALTA.—It's no wonder General Motors set the public introduction of the new diesel and transmission powertrain for its pickup line right here in oil country — four of every 10 sales of heavy duty diesel pickups are to oilpatchers. Therein lay another problem, though. With no new pickup until next year, what to do? GM laid on a drag strip! To show off the performance of the new 6.6 L Duramax diesel and six-speed Allison transmission in its 2006 truck, GM brought along the current diesel-powered offerings from Ford and Dodge." http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=970599119419 Last edited by Ming : 03-27-2006 at 10:30 AM.

03-28-2006, 07:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
turbossr 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lilburn, GA USA Drives: 06 Ram Megacab HEMI 04 RX-8 GT Posts: 133	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Yay for GM. That Alison Transmission is very nice. The Dodge is the nicest truck IMO. I just love that big rig styling. __________________ Current Rides: 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 MegaCab SLT HEMI 2004 Mazda RX-8 GT M6 w/ Navigation. 1995 Eagle Talon TSi M5 FWD (converting to AWD) 389hp/377lb ft dyno tuned. Former Rides: 2000 Camaro SS M6, 1998 Trans Am M6,1996 LT4 Corvette M6,1995 Contour SE M5 Duratec V6,1992 Mazda Miata,1989 Mustang GT M5.

03-28-2006, 08:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
the prix 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 330	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Thats my dream truck right there. I win the lottery, I'm buying one. Someone every pisses me off, I won't fight 'em, Ill just snatch their house off of its foundation. One day................ __________________ Well, you fellas' gonna draw them guns or you gonna whistle Dixie?

03-28-2006, 09:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
RamJet502 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Drives: 2001 Chevy Silverado Posts: 3,128	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals There have been quite a few Powerstroke fans running their mouths on this website lately. I hope this will bring them back to reality. They know who they are. Last edited by RamJet502 : 03-30-2006 at 10:20 PM.

03-29-2006, 03:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
silveradohd2k5 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 229	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals The new 6.6 has more torque than both ford at 590 and Dodge at 610... I would hope it could out pull the competition... Great to see them show that GM has the advantage in the Diesel Market

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03-30-2006, 09:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
chevyguy04 Walking Join Date: Oct 2005 Drives: 2006 Chevy 2500HD Posts: 7	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Don't quote me on this, but i have heard from a couple sources, that they are working on the new alison tranny, and they are designing it to handle 800-1000 lb ft of torque, i was pumped when i heard that, becuz you know what that means, a STRONGER DURAMAX. Thats right GM makes the best diesel truck. I have personally experienced all the diesels and no question the duramax will blow them away. The dodge doesn't know how to shift and all the shifts are hard, and the ford has major turbo lag. My next truck will for sure be a Duramax, But just got my truck in Nov, so i have to keep it for a couple years, give the new trucks one year to get the kinks out. Keep it GM i Love the SUVs lets see seom awesome trucks.

03-30-2006, 10:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dealernut Walking Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Drives: 05 GTO (my baby) 04 Yukon Denali (Her DAily Drive Posts: 4	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals The new 6 speed is a powerful truck. I have several friends who pull 10 to 20k on a regular basis(not on a grade) and they love them. All of them have jumped from one truck to the other. They all came back to the Sierra because of how they pulled.

04-04-2006, 04:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
AndrewGS 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring, TX, MX (Houston) Drives: 1986 Ford RS200 EVO Posts: 6,940	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals After recently spending some time at both Ford and Dodge dealers looking around at everything including HD trucks, I'd rather have the "old" GMT-800 Heavy-Duty anyways. __________________ Andrew - MySpace - KD5FHW 1995 Buick Roadmaster Limited - LT1, 4L60E, 2.93 Gears, 260HP, 4,200LBS, 15.4SEC 1/4-MI, 21MPG 2005 Chevrolet Silverado C1500 LS - LM7, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 300HP, 4,200LBS, 15.0SEC 1/4-MI, 19.0MPG "Gas mileage is fine, but keep in mind, the first question any car buyer asks themselves is, 'Will this get me laid?'"

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SuperSS27 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: May 2005 Drives: Blacked Out 2006 Trailblazer SS 2wd Posts: 816	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Im glad someone found this article. My friend and I were just arguing about the new 6.6L Duramax w/Allison vs. his 2000 F350 with the power stroke. He thinks if they hooked up, he would pull it around like it was nothing. This will show his ass.

04-04-2006, 11:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
ctaylorzl1 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Drives: 1996 Dodge 3500 CTD 4x4 1992 Camaro RS 305 Posts: 3,303	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals The Duramax is a really great engine, I wish I could have afforded one when I bought my Ram, The Duramax is just to expensive. I looked at a few 01/02 Silverados with the Duramax, even the ones with 150K+ miles were $20K+, I got my 96 Ram with 172K+ miles ans it runs like new. I expect it to go for atleast 400K+, Im not sure if I would trus a Duramax to do 400K like the Cummins will, mabey the would I dont know. That and the Silverado's sit about the same height as a 2wd Ram. But If I could pick a new one I would deffinatly pick a Duramax. Even though I think the new Rams look best, & have tons more interior space. IMP

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ChevroletTough 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin Drives: 1989 Silverado LS 1995 Monte Carlo Z34 Posts: 1,342	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals you can't mess with a name like Allison. (and thats the way the cookie crumbles) __________________ "Mess With The Bull and You Get the Horns!" 1989 Silverado 229,xxx Miles *(updated mileage: 10/1/08)* "Drive what you want, appologize to no-one" - Nailhead425

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FamilyTruckster 6.2 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada Drives: 06 Torrent Sport AWD - loaded 07 Avalanche LT Posts: 2,506	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Where are all the Ford lovers? __________________ GM Pro Certified Sales Consultant/Business Manager - 2006 Torrent Sport AWD - Liquid Silver - 2008 Avalanche - Blue Granite Metallic

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01cavalier 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, OR Drives: 2007 Cobalt Posts: 4,818	Re: Diesel Draggin': GM pulls it out in duel with rivals Well of course the gearing helps. The 5-speed Allison would have done the same I think, since the only change was the addition of the 6th gear on top of 5th. Still, the extra torque helps too...and of course that the Duramax has its peak at 1600 RPM, same as the Cummins. The Ford has it's peak at 2000.

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