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GMI Staff Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SE Texas
Posts: 13,430
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Chevy Colorado debuts
New pick-up truck replaces outdated S-10 Drew Dorian Echo Online - Dimensions Editor JUNE 15, 2004 When it comes to innovation, General Motors is rarely the segment leader. In the past year, however, the General has been slowly introducing their new product image with an all-new cast of cars, trucks and SUV’s. One of the most important projects was revamping the GM family of compact pick-ups. The Chevrolet S-10 and its corporate twin, the GMC Sonoma, have been replaced, finally, with two brand new trucks. The Chevrolet Colorado, which was provided to us by Carnahan Chevrolet of Ypsilanti, and its cousin, the GMC Canyon, are oodles better than the antiquated S-10/Sonoma trucks. That’s not to say that the previous S-10 wasn’t a dedicated workhorse. It was. In fact, my younger brother has had his ’92 S-10 for quite a while and it has performed well and without much trouble. However, that truck exhibits quite a bit of the typical shake, rattle and roll seen in other S-10/Sonoma platform trucks. The Colorado has a much stiffer frame and a much more comfortable cabin than the old model, exhibits much less cowl shake and seems less of a punishing ride than its predecessor. Our tester, a well-equipped, two-wheel-drive crew cab model, included many innovative features not found on other trucks in its class. The crew cab also included many storage nooks to make stowing inside the cab a breeze. An area under the rear seats can store small items like a toolbox, laptop or textbooks. This provides an out-of-sight storage space for expensive items as well. An attractive and easy to read instrument display and controls setup worked well and looks simple. It does not take long to get used to the controls. The gauges are easy to read and straightforward. Radio and HVAC controls are within reach and easy to use. The dashboard itself could use a touch of attention, though. A cheap-looking and feeling plastic covers the dash and does nothing to enhance the look of the interior. The inline-five provides plenty of power needed to tow up to 4000 pounds of Jet Ski, trailer or whatever you need to move. Fuel economy is around 17 miles-per-gallon in the city, which is better than most compact pickups. The exhaust note leaves a bit to be desired, however. Instead of sounding like a truck, it sounds more like a sick dog’s growl. The weak sound makes the Colorado’s power output seem anemic, when in fact it has quite a bit of torque and horsepower. It just doesn’t fit. Overall, the Colorado is leaps and bounds better than the old S-10. Full Review Here ![]()
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3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Great Lakes Road Warrior
Drives: '04 Pontiac Vibe
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Better than the S-10, yes. But EDMUNDS has just bashed it saying the exterior was right on the money, but the interior finds the same type of hard plastic and misaligned parts as the older truck - or something to that effect.
I think the interior should get a remake sometime soon, especially with all the new trucks coming out from the competition. This is especially true with the recent Car and Driver compliment of the "mini-Lexus like interior" of the Cobalt. GM should share the interior upgrade strategy with their entire product line. ![]()
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Drives: 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
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I have a question for those with more knowledge of this segment. Will the fact that the Colorado/Canyon has a lower tow rating than the S-10/Sonoma hurt sales since the new Dakota is about to be released and it has an improved tow rating over its predecessor?
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3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Considering how often I see S10/Ranger size trucks towing
measurable trailers, I doubt it should be a major impact on sales. Although maybe the knowledge that the truck has a limited tow limit might push some people away. So the Colorado is more refined than the S10? I was thinking my '99 S10 was TOO comfy. ![]()
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,951
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I hate to nit pick, but...
"When it comes to innovation, General Motors is rarely the segment leader...." What kind of crap opening line is this, Drew!? Does this reflect something you know, or is this some cheap quip for which you have no facts? Come on! Then again, maybe I'm being senstive. I agree with Edmunds (and killerrd2) with respect to the visual aesthetics of these two trucks. The exterior is fairly appealing, but the interior needs some work. |
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4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,244
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I agree 100% with Edmunds on the interior, it is very cheap. Just try pulling down the visor mirror to swing over to cover the side window. It feels like it is being held in by a piece of card board, which essentially is true. The dash is cheap hard plastic, the door panals are terrible and that garbage seat material that car manufacturers are shovong down our throats is even in the better models. I would forgive some of this if GM would offer the 4.2 l-6 and rear disk brakes but I think this is an underachieving effert on Chevy's part.
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5.3 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: People's Republic of California
Drives: 2007 Tahoe LT,
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: France
Drives: 2007 MBK Flipper Scooter
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i agree with vanshmack. i didn't really find the interior too bad at all. i think it looks fine, and didn't really pick up on the crappy materials. maybe i'm not observant enough... but fit and finish inside appeared on-par with the equinox, which is also very well executed in my opinion. can't say i like the 'fun fabric' seat inserts though. a little too first-gen chrysler neon!
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3.5 Liter V6
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South FLA...
Drives: 1962 Corvair
1979 Corvette
1997 Sonoma
Posts: 297
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I really like the interior of the old model. My 97' has easy to read gauges, the radio is at the right distance so you don't have to reach, and the seats were quite comfy (replaced them later on for f-body units). The only time it ever creaked was when I broke the door panel with my leg. The only complaint I had was the lack of insulation. I added a sound pad to the floor and a heat pad on the roof, I was surprised the roof came completely baren except for the headliner. Not sure though if this was remedied in the new Colorado/Canyon.
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: N.W.Ontario
Posts: 4,793
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This is were I think the Dakota shines and I thought that the Caynon\Colorado where suppose to be larger than the S-10, built on th Envoy\Trailblazer I had pictured them closer to the Dakota size. |
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: N.W.Ontario
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This is were I think the Dakota shines and I thought that the Caynon\Colorado where suppose to be larger than the S-10, built on th Envoy\Trailblazer I had pictured them closer to the Dakota size. |
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3.6 Liter V6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,086
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Current Segment Innovations or Leadership positions: Midgates, 4 Wheel Steering, Retractable Roofs (on SUVs, Trucks, and Cars), HID Lamps, Common Rail Diesels, CVTs, Active Suspension and Magnetic Ride Control, Sliding Rear Seats, XM Radio and OnStar. Besides the fact that on a segment by segment basis, GM has better fuel economy than Toyota or Ford (sounds like innovative leadership to me), there are hundreds of patented and less visible innovations, great and small, being built into GM vehicles today. Future Segments Innovations? How about the first Commercially Available Fuel Cell Vehicle? Who would be the innovators in each segment today? And what are their notable innovations? This guy is either biased, ignorant, or lazy. Probably ignorant and lazy, since he works for what I'd guess is a college newspaper at Eastern Michigan.
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3.6 Liter V6
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The Great White North
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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The Colorado/Canyon is the GMT 355 platform. Trailblazer/Envoy/Rainier are GMT 360. And yes the GMT 355 is smaller than the GMT 360. GMT 355 is right between S10/Sonoma and Envoy. |
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2.4 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 119
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My other quip on the Colorado/Canyon is price. TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE for what you get! A 28K Crew Cab 4x4 3.5L w/ Bucket Seats? Come on... try 25K MAX!. |
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