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1.8 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
I work for a solar power company. As a "green" company, we were interested in buying a Tahoe Hybrid as a company vehicle.
We inquired of our local Chevrolet dealer in Southeast Washington State and they told us the Hybrid Tahoe's & Yukons were unavailable in our area until late this year at the earliest? This is a perplexing article considering our experience. Also the price, even had the Hybrids been available, was off-putting. Secondly, why buy a Tahoe or Yukon Hybrid now when we know the direct injection version of the V-8's and possibly even the plug-in versions will be available in the near future? |
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
I tend to agree that these hybrid SUVs were a bad idea. The only thing they may have been good for was the development experience and technology maturity. But GM failed to study the intended buyer in the case of these SUVs. A large majority of people that buy Hybrids do so for the money savings, not for the novelty of owning a Hybrid (with the expception of Paris Hilton). At $50k+, not many people can justify the price. And if you have this type of dough to dish out, you're probably not worried about gas prices.
I agree, it would be better to stick this technology in the lower end and smaller trucks/SUVs instead of these large loaded ones.
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
I have seen many of the Hybrid Tahoe and Yukons here in San Antonio. Funny - based on the numbers I have seen - probably three just in the last few days - I assumed they were selling really well.
I do agree that the powertrain should be offered in less luxurious form to lower the price of the truck and get more people into them. Speaking of trucks...get this in the Silverado four door on all trim levels and then watch sales rise.
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6.0 Liter LS2 V8
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
Also - why not offer this in the Suburban? It seems that since all the money was spent developing this very complex but efficient powertrain that GM should offer it in every GMT-900 vehicle. Make it one of the options.
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3.5 Liter V6
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
SO, they thought they would sell 1,000 units a month, and instead they have sold 1,100 in 6 months!?!?!? Holy failure, batman.
My feeling is, anyone who is buying a $50,000 vertion of the Tahoe is not concerned about getting a few more MPG in the city. The person who buys the $33,000 vertion would be more concerned, in my mind. Like others have stated, just make it an option on all Tahoes instead of only offering it on the loaded one. |
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3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
I think the point a $50k hybrid Tahoe makes is that the techology (for GM) is too new and thus still cost too much to make at their current production levels. It would be a big industry "power play" move for GM is they were to make at least 25% of Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade production with the 2-mode hybrid transmission just to get a bunch of the GM-hybrid-tech out there. And it wouldn't hurt if a hybrid model can be owned for $35k (basic radio, rwd, cloth, etc).
And maybe somebody that can afford a $50k SUV can probably keep their current vehicle and purchase a more fuel efficient "day-to-day" vehicle; and leave huge/sporty/utility gas-guzzler at home during the week. Last edited by jlt0x : 06-02-2008 at 04:14 PM. |
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1.8 Liter ECOTEC
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
[quote=JeffInDFW;1413260]SO, they thought they would sell 1,000 units a month, and instead they have sold 1,100 in 6 months!?!?!? Holy failure, batman.
........ is not concerned about getting a few more MPG in the city...... You're right, The problem is most of these Hybrids dont live up to the advertised EPA numbers. They do better than their gas-only counterparts but not by what they promised you. Slam the Alu hood, Gate, seat frames and earodynamics on a conventional Tahoe and the difference becomes even smaller. But I have to admit,its still a better choice than getting a smelly diesel. If you have to have such a big vehicle and have some money to spare, then the hybrid is for you. |
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3.8 Liter Supercharged V6
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
My observation is that GM is not really all *that* worried about building and selling the cars people want.
It looks to me like GM is really into pushing the cars (or usally trucks) that they are comfortable with. Which means that GM dealers are stuck trying to sell inconsequential BS cars like the Lucerne, Aveo, Solstice, etc. The Tahoe/Yukon hybrid is another one of the unending string of miscalculations (apart from the Malibu) by Wagnor and Lutz. The Tahoe/Yukon hybrid was the answer to the question that no one was asking...but that didn't slow Rick and Bob down one little bit. In their heads, it made sense. Let's face it - what most American's wants is a compact or mid-size car (6 out of the 10 best selling cars are compacts) that is consistenly well built, gets really good gas mileage and has a bit of pizaz. The Corolla's and Civics of the world do this really well. And this is the consumer that GM has no time (or product) for. Last edited by windvale : 06-02-2008 at 04:52 PM. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
How many Tahoe/Yukon buyers hold onto their vehicles for 5 years? How many drive them enough to consider saving a few dollars on gas?(Most owners have smaller vehicles that are the daily runners.) Hybrids work well on small vehicles,not on behemoths.
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
GM needs the profit from the upgrade packages to help defer the $$$$ loss on the hybrid system
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3.8 Liter V6
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Jersey
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
Maybe the ridiculous number of badges and decals is partly to blame, no??
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
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4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
I always felt like their target should've been the foreman/superintendent type who spends most of the day talking into his Nextel & doing paperwork in his truck, while occasionally hauling a few rolls of felt paper around his subdivision. Or, the city/county types who check meters, do inspections, and that sort of thing. Those guys could really benefit from a hybrid. But they don't spend $50,000 on trucks though, so in GM's eyes they're lower than dirt (I'm beginning to really hate their stupid @sses BTW). The ones that do seem to be guys that've never worn anything less than Perry Ellis in public and have their wives do most of the driving.
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: CT
Drives: 2005 chevy silverado 1500 5.3 EC LB Z-71
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Re: Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid seeing lackluster sales
"In order to get into a hybrid Tahoe, buyers will have to plunk down at least $53,000 — $4,000 more than a comparable gasoline-only Tahoe. Although buyers will recoup that price difference in gas savings over five years — not including a $2,200 government rebate — most buyers find it hard to justify a sticker price that high. Gasoline Tahoes match their hybrid counterparts in highway mileage (20/22 mpg 4WD/2WD) but get about 6 to 7 mpg less in city driving — 13/14 compared to 20/21 (4WD/2WD)."
thats actually reallly good deal and quick payback when compared to car hybrids. has anyone seen it live either? i havent seen one on any lot. gmc or chevy.
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