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Originally Posted by unkillsam

Which is why I am hoping that the Premium theta/epsilon architechture that caddy will be using will eventualy trickle down to the rest of the divisions cuz the equinox/torrent suck.

NO WAY. Not until Caddy/Saab, gets a totally differnet platform again will Chevy and such see the premium Theta. I pray.

Chevy doesn't need everything.

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Originally Posted by Quickening

NO WAY. Not until Caddy/Saab, gets a totally differnet platform again will Chevy and such see the premium Theta. I pray.

Chevy doesn't need everything.

Chevy does need everything, it account's for 60% of GM's volume. Any Chevy that sucks reflects badly on Caddilac because of the GM association.

Hell, Camry and the ES is it? Im not sure which lexus it is but they share a platform.

Saying that something as un-noticed as a vehicles platform(to the average consumer) is to good for chevrolet is unacceptable.

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this is the only product (well maybe the Outlook to a more extent) would really want to make me have a family just so I could drive one of these.

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Originally Posted by unkillsam

Chevy does need everything, it account's for 60% of GM's volume. Any Chevy that sucks reflects badly on Caddilac because of the GM association.

Hell, Camry and the ES is it? Im not sure which lexus it is but they share a platform.

Saying that something as un-noticed as a vehicles platform(to the average consumer) is to good for chevrolet is unacceptable.

And thats the exact reason I won't be caught dead in a Lexus. Most of their vehicles are basically the same as a Toyota. Ok, new sheetmetal, more technology and new interior. But when you get back to the core of the car, its the same just tuned differently. No thanks. I don't want my Saab or Cadillac having a thing to do with a Chevy. Cadillac maybe, they did a decent job with the Escalade, but it needs more interior differiantation, especially teh door panels! But Saab, NO WAY. Saab needs to be way out there doing their own thing.

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Originally Posted by unkillsam

Chevy does need everything, it account's for 60% of GM's volume.

The only reason that is is because of the larger dealer network. That, and the way they cry (like this case) when another GM brand has something they don't. Fact of the matter is, aside from the trucks/suvs and Corvette, Chevrolet always produces the blandest, cheapest versions of cars that are badged differently in other GM divisions. I expect this Lambda to be no different.

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Originally Posted by Quickening

And thats the exact reason I won't be caught dead in a Lexus. Most of their vehicles are basically the same as a Toyota. Ok, new sheetmetal, more technology and new interior. But when you get back to the core of the car, its the same just tuned differently. No thanks. I don't want my Saab or Cadillac having a thing to do with a Chevy. Cadillac maybe, they did a decent job with the Escalade, but it needs more interior differiantation, especially teh door panels! But Saab, NO WAY. Saab needs to be way out there doing their own thing.

So what you are saying is that you won't buy a saab because it rides on the epsilon platform just like the Malibu does.

And then you will argue that the epsilon that the saab is on is better then the one the malibu rides on.

Then I will say that why can't the same be applied to the theta/epsilon caddilac and chevrolet.

Then you will say because GM should not stay in the past.

THen I will say you are absoulutely correct, chevrolet should have gotten saab's version of epsilion in the first place, now that they cheapened it, we cant get nav in a 2008 malibu because the cheapened architecture does not support it.

Case closed.

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Originally Posted by Shotgun

The only reason that is is because of the larger dealer network. That, and the way they cry (like this case) when another GM brand has something they don't. Fact of the matter is, aside from the trucks/suvs and Corvette, Chevrolet always produces the blandest, cheapest versions of cars that are badged differently in other GM divisions. I expect this Lambda to be no different.

Ok, the only rebadged car that I have ever had was my Camaro SS.

The Camaro SS had the following advantages over the so called "less bland" Trans AM.

No nasty looking side body cladding, just nice and clean.

No stupid 12 inch tall spoiler that looked like a spatula.

Simpler interior. 90's pontiac interiors were perhaps the worst interiors ever, oh no wait that was 80's pontiac interiors.

Rear quarterpanels that did not look like they got stung like a bumble bee.

No front end snorkels on the hood. I liked my hood scoop better.

SO in short, I like chevrolet's cleaner designs better because they are not FROO FROO.

BTW Malibu (08) ownes the G6 and for less coin too.

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Originally Posted by Shotgun

The only reason that is is because of the larger dealer network. That, and the way they cry (like this case) when another GM brand has something they don't. Fact of the matter is, aside from the trucks/suvs and Corvette, Chevrolet always produces the blandest, cheapest versions of cars that are badged differently in other GM divisions. I expect this Lambda to be no different.

So then Saturn and GMC should not have Lambda's either because they are cheapened buick's.

Like your logic there, develop a new platform for every brand and make GM go bankrupt.

And why the heck am I a rocket now. I want my HF V6 back!!!!

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Originally Posted by montrealvue

Got that right, the rebadges cheapen GM's image.

Maybe not. It's my understanding the Chevrolet will get its own stying to differentiate it from the others. Enclave looks substantially different from Acadian otherwise I don't think both the Acadian and the Enclave would be selling as well as they are. All of the people who have been driving Trailblazers and Uplander/Venture will be buying the new Chevrolet Traverse when its ready and I don't think they'll impact sales of Acadian/Outlook/Enclave.

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Originally Posted by unkillsam

Ok, the only rebadged car that I have ever had was my Camaro SS.

BTW Malibu (08) ownes the G6 and for less coin too.

The previous (not last) gen Camaro looked a lot like a bloated Geo Storm to many people.

The G6 is over 2 years old already versus a car that hasn't come out yet. They Chevy should be ahead for now. What about the Aura? Most already say the Aura is superior to the Malibu. That's what happens...Chevys are the cheap, chintzy versions of the other brands in most cases.

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Originally Posted by unkillsam

So then Saturn and GMC should not have Lambda's either because they are cheapened buick's.

Like your logic there, develop a new platform for every brand and make GM go bankrupt.

And why the heck am I a rocket now. I want my HF V6 back!!!!

No, you don't need a new platform, but the body, interior, etc should be nearly completely different. Not just a different air bag cover on the steering wheel with the "your name here" brand logo. I'm talking about identical dash, seats, etc.

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Originally Posted by Shotgun

The previous (not last) gen Camaro looked a lot like a bloated Geo Storm to many people.

The G6 is over 2 years old already versus a car that hasn't come out yet. They Chevy should be ahead for now. What about the Aura? Most already say the Aura is superior to the Malibu. That's what happens...Chevys are the cheap, chintzy versions of the other brands in most cases.

I like how you only quoted part of what I said to put down my opinion. I spelled out my reasons, but obviously what you think is the only thing that counts.

Like I said, many people I knew thought that the trans am looked like it got stung in the rear and was all swollen up.

And how the heck would you confuse a rebadged toyota with a camaro, I definatly dont want what you are smoking.

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GM has a lot of good things going lately, but they don't need to share everything across the board, unkillsam. I like Chevy products, I really do. I just don't take to the fact that some thing they MUST HAVE a version of what any other brand does, regardless of its purpose. Sure, some say that GMC should get all BOF trucks, Pontiac the performance, Buick the upper level Asian competitors, Chevrolet the family brand, etc. I don't think it needs to go quite that extreme, but I do see a need for each brand to have a unique identity, not just "another GM brand" as they seem to many.

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Originally Posted by unkillsam

I like how you only quoted part of what I said to put down my opinion. I spelled out my reasons, but obviously what you think is the only thing that counts.

Like I said, many people I knew thought that the trans am looked like it got stung in the rear and was all swollen up.

And how the heck would you confuse a rebadged toyota with a camaro, I definatly dont want what you are smoking.

Those "advantages" you quoted were YOUR opinion, surely not fact.

I can't help that the particular Camaro looked like a swollen Toyota.

Sorry I don't live in Philthy-delphia and breath that air you are breathing, either.

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Originally Posted by Shotgun

No, you don't need a new platform, but the body, interior, etc should be nearly completely different. Not just a different air bag cover on the steering wheel with the "your name here" brand logo. I'm talking about identical dash, seats, etc.

Other then the steering wheel and radio, everything does look different.