NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR.

likearock00 · 08-20-2008, 02:14 PM

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Joe Gibbs Racing has suspended two Nationwide Series crew chiefs for the remainder of the season in the wake of penalties handed down by NASCAR after rule violations were discovered by inspectors prior to post-race testing on the chassis dynamometer Aug. 16 at Michigan.

NASCAR announced that seven crew members -- including No. 18 crew chief Jason Ratcliff and No. 20 crew chief Dave Rogers -- have been placed on indefinite suspension.

In response, team owner Joe Gibbs said in a statement: "A poor decision was made by some key members of our organization, and 100 percent of the blame rests with us."

Gibbs also noted that JGR would adding its own penalties to the team members on top of NASCAR's sanctions.

"We had come to the conclusion that we would add to any NASCAR imposed penalties with the minimum being suspension for the remainder of the season for those involved, including our two Nationwide Series crew chiefs. There will also be an additional monetary fine beyond the amount announced by NASCAR earlier today, which will be the responsibility of those involved."

A JGR spokesman confirmed to NASCAR.COM that team has suspended the seven crew members for the remainder of the season.

http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/head...ies/index.html

RamJet502 · 08-20-2008, 02:18 PM

Its funny that Mr. Gibbs didn't agree with probation for the drivers involved because they didn't know about the cheating. I think we all know that plausable deniability doesn't work in sports (except for Barry Bonds).

Co27sskid · 08-20-2008, 03:10 PM

This isn't as interesting as if it was Mr. Buch's Sprint Cup ride.

Granted the Nationwide series #20 car has been cleaning up down there, but still just kinda blah.

Still tho... Hendricks > Gibbs

jbernie · 08-20-2008, 03:52 PM

I saw in one of the articles on foxsports.com something about team members (not the drivers) seen leaning into the cars after the race was over which could have been when the spacers were inserted.

Just don't see someone telling Tony Stewart to just slip this spacer under your accelerator to help us out without the guy potentially getting punched by Tony. Tony hasn't always been perfect on the track with some incidents where he should have given more, but I don't see the guy trying to cheat like this. And Logano has a lot to lose doing it as he is trying to break into the top ranks.

Also, given neither Stewart or Logano were in any contention for the Championship etc as they are both doing part time racing, I think their penalties should be added onto the team penalties. Logano's only had 5 races or so.

Hunid Racks · 08-20-2008, 03:59 PM

Oh No!!!!

Double Secret Probation!!!!

Strange that nothing changes in any rules for the cars but the Toyota check has already cleared into the WWE..... Er..... NA$CAR account.

dindak · 08-20-2008, 04:19 PM

They should have had some points taken away also.

They are lucky Kyle and Tony weren't involved.

tirediron · 08-20-2008, 04:41 PM

I think they should fine Kyle for being probably the ugliest human ever born.

texassierradude · 08-20-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tirediron

I think they should fine Kyle for being probably the ugliest human ever born.

How immature is this?

Whitesky · 08-20-2008, 05:10 PM

Anytime something bad happens to Toyota "racing" is a good day in my book.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tirediron

I think they should fine Kyle for being probably the ugliest human ever born.

Apparently you have never seen Sarah Jessica Parker.

tirediron · 08-20-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesky

Anytime something bad happens to Toyota "racing" is a good day in my book.

Apparently you have never seen Sarah Jessica Parker.

ha ha!
Good Point!

And texassierradude--- I'm just trying to have fun! why does everything have to be so serious here? Geesh!

bone · 08-20-2008, 05:15 PM

A decent penalty for a truly blatant cheating scenario. What is Toyota's take on this? When Waltrip's cars were found with illegal gas last year, they had a lot to say.

slowinthefastlane · 08-20-2008, 05:27 PM

Here's a way to deal with the cheating: get rid of the rules and formula cars. Let 'em run what they bring to the track. That would bring NASCAR too close to real racing and too close to its roots, though.

triadecho · 08-20-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tirediron

I think they should fine Kyle for being probably the ugliest human ever born.

Perhaps drivers should be supplied from central casting like in Days of Thunder?

$50,000 fine on each crew chief seems light by NASCAR standards, but boys will be boys.

Jason G · 08-20-2008, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dindak

They should have had some points taken away also.

They are lucky Kyle and Tony weren't involved.

These fine were assessed to the Nationwide teams, not the Sprint Cup teams.
I wish it was Kyle Busch, too.

mike's 01ws6 · 08-20-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texassierradude

How immature is this?

Why was that immature, do you think Kyle is cute or somehting?

08-20-2008, 02:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
likearock00 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Drives: 2006 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab Z-71 Posts: 7,883	NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Joe Gibbs Racing has suspended two Nationwide Series crew chiefs for the remainder of the season in the wake of penalties handed down by NASCAR after rule violations were discovered by inspectors prior to post-race testing on the chassis dynamometer Aug. 16 at Michigan. NASCAR announced that seven crew members -- including No. 18 crew chief Jason Ratcliff and No. 20 crew chief Dave Rogers -- have been placed on indefinite suspension. In response, team owner Joe Gibbs said in a statement: "A poor decision was made by some key members of our organization, and 100 percent of the blame rests with us." Gibbs also noted that JGR would adding its own penalties to the team members on top of NASCAR's sanctions. "We had come to the conclusion that we would add to any NASCAR imposed penalties with the minimum being suspension for the remainder of the season for those involved, including our two Nationwide Series crew chiefs. There will also be an additional monetary fine beyond the amount announced by NASCAR earlier today, which will be the responsibility of those involved." A JGR spokesman confirmed to NASCAR.COM that team has suspended the seven crew members for the remainder of the season. http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/head...ies/index.html __________________ Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. -Thomas Jefferson

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RamJet502 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Drives: 2001 Chevy Silverado Posts: 3,128	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. Its funny that Mr. Gibbs didn't agree with probation for the drivers involved because they didn't know about the cheating. I think we all know that plausable deniability doesn't work in sports (except for Barry Bonds). __________________

08-20-2008, 03:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Co27sskid 2.2 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 86	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. This isn't as interesting as if it was Mr. Buch's Sprint Cup ride. Granted the Nationwide series #20 car has been cleaning up down there, but still just kinda blah. Still tho... Hendricks > Gibbs

08-20-2008, 03:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
jbernie 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado, USA Drives: 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Posts: 1,412	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. I saw in one of the articles on foxsports.com something about team members (not the drivers) seen leaning into the cars after the race was over which could have been when the spacers were inserted. Just don't see someone telling Tony Stewart to just slip this spacer under your accelerator to help us out without the guy potentially getting punched by Tony. Tony hasn't always been perfect on the track with some incidents where he should have given more, but I don't see the guy trying to cheat like this. And Logano has a lot to lose doing it as he is trying to break into the top ranks. Also, given neither Stewart or Logano were in any contention for the Championship etc as they are both doing part time racing, I think their penalties should be added onto the team penalties. Logano's only had 5 races or so. __________________ Talk is cheap, sometimes it is on sale!

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Hunid Racks 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 400	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. Oh No!!!! Double Secret Probation!!!! Strange that nothing changes in any rules for the cars but the Toyota check has already cleared into the WWE..... Er..... NA$CAR account.

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08-20-2008, 04:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
dindak 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto area Posts: 2,185	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. They should have had some points taken away also. They are lucky Kyle and Tony weren't involved.

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tirediron 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Flint, MI Drives: 07 HHR 07 G6 Posts: 311	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. I think they should fine Kyle for being probably the ugliest human ever born.

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bone 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,338	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. A decent penalty for a truly blatant cheating scenario. What is Toyota's take on this? When Waltrip's cars were found with illegal gas last year, they had a lot to say. __________________ 1966 Corvair Corsa

08-20-2008, 05:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
slowinthefastlane 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 515	Re: NASCAR hands down penalties to JGR. Here's a way to deal with the cheating: get rid of the rules and formula cars. Let 'em run what they bring to the track. That would bring NASCAR too close to real racing and too close to its roots, though.

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