New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March

FenwickHockey65 · 05-22-2008, 09:39 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/22/n...va-next-march/

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Originally predicted to be shown at the Paris Motor Show in October of this year, the 2010 Saab 9-5 won't actually debut until the 2009 Geneva Motor Show in March of next year.

CamaroCrazy · 05-22-2008, 09:55 PM

As old (and sad) as the 9-5 is, Saab really needs that car THIS fall.

**mgescuro** · 05-22-2008, 10:09 PM

Well... this 9-5 is only 3 years late. GM's improving.

WishIhadatruck · 05-22-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

Well... this 9-5 is only 3 years late. GM's improving.

No kidding. I hope it is on the dealers lots the next day because the current car is incredibly old and out of date.

**mgescuro** · 05-22-2008, 10:30 PM

Let's see. The first 9-5 came out in 1998. For all intents and purposes, it should have been updated 2003. But it's European, so 2005 would have been acceptable. And an MCE did come in 2002 (and again in 2007 to make it look like a raccoon). So, it's 2008 now. Hmmm... and by the time 9-5 rolls out, it will be 2010. A total of 5 years late -- 7 if you want to be picky.

S80 was revised in 2006. So by the time 9-5 comes out, S80 will go through a big time MCE. Will that trump the 9-5? Time will tell.

It's disappointing that GM has treated Saab like ****. It's best GM sell them to BMW or a company far more competent.

stevecmh · 05-22-2008, 11:27 PM

Saab needs this fast.. it looks good

FierySolstice · 05-23-2008, 08:23 AM

Good, get the 9-5 out to market, then sell Saab to the highest bidder. Maybe Tata would buy them, they could slot them right below Jaguar. Or GM could sell them along with Hummer as a package deal like Ford did with Jaguar and Land Rover. GM really doesn't need either of them. It doesn't make much sense to have Saab, they already have that area covered with Buick and Cadillac. I remember back when they killed Oldsmobile, Saab sold less cars then they did!

johnstarnes · 05-23-2008, 08:43 AM

I hope it looks a lot like the Aero-X.

Hoboken Tim · 05-23-2008, 10:47 AM

I hope this change is a realization by GM that introducing a car 6 months to a year ahead of its dealer introduction is bad marketing. It leads to the perception that the
car is already old hat when it hits the dealer.

skylark68 · 05-23-2008, 11:30 AM

Sell Saab to someone else and let it drag them down.

camaro_freak · 05-23-2008, 11:33 AM

should have been out in October.. this car is ridiculous. The MCE was pathetic.

In typical GM fashion...

"The Saab 9-5 is the automotive equivalent of an octogenarian. Most manufacturers debut a revised model every four years, sometimes three, sometimes five, but the 9-5 has been around for over eight years now and it shows"

GM needs to start heavily re-investing or just dump SAAB completely. There is no excuse for this type of product starvation when you had a FANTASTIC concept a few years back that the media and public loved.

Perian · 05-23-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroCrazy

As old (and sad) as the 9-5 is, Saab really needs that car THIS fall.

You are certainly correct - but the current Saab 9-5 isn't that bad...I'm shopping for one at the current moment.

There are a few 2007 units out there with $6000* factory incentives + Saab loyalty** and generous dealer discounts. You will find $10K off list is possible on a very well equipped vehicle.

Here is an example of one dealers stock. I was given a price of $ 29,915 on the last one...$13,000 off list (Note that it is a manual transmission).

Year Make Model MSRP Price Exterior
Extended Trim Body Style Transmission Color
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $37,340 Blue
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic
VIN: YS3ED49G373522205 078075 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $37,340 Silver
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic
VIN: YS3ED49G873522202 078074 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $38,085 Black
4DR SDN Sedan 4 Dr. Automatic w/Visibility Pkg Gray
VIN: YS3ED49G173522168 078073 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected
2007 Saab 9-5 Contact Us $42,915 Fusion Blue
Aero Sedan 4 Dr. Manual
VIN: YS3EH45G673510947 078032 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Fuel Injected

*Note: Rebate amounts based on NY zip code.
**Note: Details at www.SaabUSA.com

Clocker · 05-23-2008, 11:43 AM

This bums me out. I was hoping to see a new generation 9-5 on the lot when the leases on our 2007 Avalanche and the wife's 2006 STS are up THIS Fall.

Greg Burr · 05-23-2008, 12:31 PM

So shouldn't the 9-3 that was in development (before they decided to downsize it) become the new 9-5?

tgagneguam · 05-23-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

...It's best GM sell them to BMW or a company far more competent.

Nope, it's time for GM to press Saab management to manage the company well or leave (and snip the golden parachutes for good measure). Cut and run is the typical GM S.O.P., and that's in part what got GM into all the trouble it's in presently. When the going gets tough, cut and run! Pretty pathetic motto, don't ya think?

How 'bout running a company like you want to win for once? How 'bout investing in product and holding marketing accountable for its misdeeds? Why is it becoming more prevalent in American society to cut and run whenever things get tough? I don't think that that's the foundation on which the US was built.

05-22-2008, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
CamaroCrazy 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cary, NC Drives: 1994 Camaro Z28 2000 Camaro Posts: 438	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March As old (and sad) as the 9-5 is, Saab really needs that car THIS fall. __________________ Webshots: My Camaros, the Camaro Concepts, and Buick in China Past Cars: 1974 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - 1984 Chevrolet Impala - 1998 Pontiac Grand Am Present Cars: 1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 2000 Chevrolet Camaro Next Car: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS

05-22-2008, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
mgescuro GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 24,405	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March Well... this 9-5 is only 3 years late. GM's improving. __________________ 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 1995 Mercedes C280 1994 Jaguar XJ6 ...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much... My Vision of Cadillac My Vision of Cadillac (REDUX)

05-22-2008, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
mgescuro GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 24,405	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March Let's see. The first 9-5 came out in 1998. For all intents and purposes, it should have been updated 2003. But it's European, so 2005 would have been acceptable. And an MCE did come in 2002 (and again in 2007 to make it look like a raccoon). So, it's 2008 now. Hmmm... and by the time 9-5 rolls out, it will be 2010. A total of 5 years late -- 7 if you want to be picky. S80 was revised in 2006. So by the time 9-5 comes out, S80 will go through a big time MCE. Will that trump the 9-5? Time will tell. It's disappointing that GM has treated Saab like ****. It's best GM sell them to BMW or a company far more competent. __________________ 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 1995 Mercedes C280 1994 Jaguar XJ6 ...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much... My Vision of Cadillac My Vision of Cadillac (REDUX)

05-22-2008, 11:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
stevecmh 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Muskego, WI Drives: 04' Grand Prix GT 03' Pierce Saber Fire Engine Posts: 3,264	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March Saab needs this fast.. it looks good

05-23-2008, 08:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
FierySolstice 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philadelphia Drives: 2007 Saturn Aura Posts: 737	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March Good, get the 9-5 out to market, then sell Saab to the highest bidder. Maybe Tata would buy them, they could slot them right below Jaguar. Or GM could sell them along with Hummer as a package deal like Ford did with Jaguar and Land Rover. GM really doesn't need either of them. It doesn't make much sense to have Saab, they already have that area covered with Buick and Cadillac. I remember back when they killed Oldsmobile, Saab sold less cars then they did! __________________ Past Rides: 1991 Saturn SC 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse 2005 Pontiac G6 2000 Pontiac Grand Am 2007 Saturn Aura Future Rides: Saturn Sky/Chevy Camaro/Pontiac G8/Cadillac CTS Coupe

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05-23-2008, 08:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
johnstarnes 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 3,029	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March I hope it looks a lot like the Aero-X. __________________ "In the time of your life, live --- so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it all." William Saroyan 1908-1981

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Hoboken Tim 2.2 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hoboken, NJ Drives: 2000 Saturn LW 1992 GMC Safari 1941 Packard 120 Posts: 65	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March I hope this change is a realization by GM that introducing a car 6 months to a year ahead of its dealer introduction is bad marketing. It leads to the perception that the car is already old hat when it hits the dealer.

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skylark68 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pearland, TX Drives: 1989 GMC Suburban 1968 Buick Skylark Posts: 1,273	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March Sell Saab to someone else and let it drag them down. __________________ The Mechanic: You'd have yourself a real street-sweeper here if you put a little work into it. G.T.O.: I go fast enough. The Driver: You can never go fast enough.

05-23-2008, 11:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
camaro_freak 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,590	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March should have been out in October.. this car is ridiculous. The MCE was pathetic. In typical GM fashion... "The Saab 9-5 is the automotive equivalent of an octogenarian. Most manufacturers debut a revised model every four years, sometimes three, sometimes five, but the 9-5 has been around for over eight years now and it shows" GM needs to start heavily re-investing or just dump SAAB completely. There is no excuse for this type of product starvation when you had a FANTASTIC concept a few years back that the media and public loved. __________________ John Crichton: It's beer o'clock. Where's my riot?

05-23-2008, 11:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
Clocker 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Metro-Detroit Drives: 2007 Avalanche LTZ , 2006 Cadillac STS Posts: 127	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March This bums me out. I was hoping to see a new generation 9-5 on the lot when the leases on our 2007 Avalanche and the wife's 2006 STS are up THIS Fall.

05-23-2008, 12:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Greg Burr 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Drives: 2003 Ford Escape XLT AWD Posts: 720	Re: New Saab 9-5 set for Geneva next March So shouldn't the 9-3 that was in development (before they decided to downsize it) become the new 9-5?

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