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Old 03-20-2007, 09:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

the opel may have lsot but

1.) it looks light years better than the droopy mess of a BMW
2.) it has a hell of a lot more bang for the buck

That is what matters to me if I were in the market for a vehicle like this... who cares of the BMW is faster to 0-100?
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

A very good result for the Opel GT when you account for the 10,000 Euro plus difference in price.

I like their comparison charts and what they focused on, good to see someone mention turning circle. Is it me or are new cars getting some ridiculously wide turning circles?

Wish U.S. city streets were that clean.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:51 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

A set up for failure, I hink so.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:42 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

Man, the Opel is in a whole different class. It is much cheaper than the car they compared it to, the BMW. Also, BMW buyers probably would never consider an Opel, and maybe even vice versa.
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:04 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

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I've just been to the AutoBild site and read the test.

I confirms our own thoughts. The GT was never going to beat the Z4 but this was more of how close has it come.

A rough translation of the verdict for you, but I guess 'Du Spinnst' could to a full traslation...

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Zwischen Opel GT und BMW Z4 liegen ein einziges PS, über 10.000 Euro – und Welten. Weil der alltagstaugliche BMW Roadster ein richtiges Auto ist. Der Opel dagegen nur Drittwagen, faszinierendes Spielzeug, Motorrad-Ersatz. Mit tollem, dynamischem Potential und bestem Handling zwar, ebenbürtig wäre er jedoch erst mit mehr Sicherheitsausstattung, sorgfältiger Verarbeitung oder intelligenterer Verdeckmechanik

Between the Opel GT and the BMW Z4 lies marginal hp, over 10,000 Euro - and a world apart. Whilst the everyday BMW Roadster is the right car. The Opel in comparison is a 'third car', a fasination toy, substute motorbike, with great dynamic potential and better handling. It would have come first if it had more saftey featurures, better quality or an intelligent roof mechanism.



My own thoughts:
I was disappointed that the 2.0 turbo didn't perform as well as I thought it would. I also think that maybe the extra weight has made a bit of an impact. Perhaps Opel should have saved on the 18" wheels, which would have also changed the ride slightly. As for build quality that's something opel are never going to beat BMW with. Not because they can't but more to do with that 10,000 Euro price difference would be greatly reduced.
My final thoughts.
Extend the wheel base and make a Cadillac roadster out of it.
All of a sudden you now have a true Z4 / SLK competitor.
I bet it would sell better than the BLS and it could be offered in NA too.

Maybe GMI could do a little piece in this idea???

Many thanks for the translation. Now that I see their points, I can understand
why the BMW came in first.
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

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Ummmm anyone here comparing the pricing?
Uhhh yeah, just about everyone who posted before you mentioned it!
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

Considering the price difference relative to the performance difference, the BMW isn't 10,000 euros better!

Opel will sell every single one of it's GTs.
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

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Opel will sell every single one of it's GTs.
GM did it already
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You mean it's already sold out?
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

Despite all the hatred of the GMIers, the BMW Z4 is the better car and the one I would buy.

The Opel GT looks very good. But the tiny boot and the fact that you have to get out of the car to open or close the soft top by hand, is really disappointing. Especially when you bear in mind it is an Opel that costs 30.000 Euros.

So yes. The BMW IS 10.000 Euros and 10.000 times better than the Opel.
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

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Despite all the hatred of the GMIers, the BMW Z4 is the better car and the one I would buy.
This is one example where I've gotten to drive the BMW competitor. Both cars (my version obviously was the Solstice GXP) were fun, but since I was driving the BMW with a helmet on, I can't really comment on the driving position and ergonomics very well. I was wedged into the Z4 and it had a hardtop bolted to it, so I just couldn't fit in it or even remotely sit right.

The BMW, though handles better and it has the sweeter engine. If I had to buy one, the value of the GXP would still be the clincher, but neither is quite my thing.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

The Sky has the better looking exterior and interior plus it's MUCH cheaper. Z4 3.0 starts at I believe $41k here and the Sky is something like $28k.

I'd take the Sky, put a catback on (+25hp) and maybe a few suspension tweaks. Even at the same price I'd still like the Sky better(although I'd think it was overpriced)
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

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the opel may have lsot but

1.) it looks light years better than the droopy mess of a BMW
2.) it has a hell of a lot more bang for the buck

That is what matters to me if I were in the market for a vehicle like this... who cares of the BMW is faster to 0-100?
yeah!! but i think that the opel still is faster
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Re: German car magazine AutoBild compares the BMW Z4 3.0i & Opel GT 2.0 Turbo

I don't know what the fuss is all about with the AutoBild review. It's probably the most accurate one to date without all the puffery associated with the US and UK press.

They basically said the Z4 is the better real car for every day use and the GT is the better "fun toy" for a 3rd car because of its performance potential and handling. They even went so far as to say that if the GT had one of the following: more safety features, better quality, or an easier to operate top it could have won overall.

As a Solstice owner, I tend to agree. The Solstice is the first car that I have ever purchased that I didn't need. In fact, this is the first time that we have ever had or even wanted a 3rd car!
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