General Motors Product Wins 2009 European Car Of The Year!

[fp115]

Originally Posted by mrgto

What does that mean exactly?

As in the upcoming Aura is under way, will simply have a more distinguished look.

[mrgto]

Originally Posted by fp115

As in the upcoming Aura is under way, will simply have a more distinguished look.

Distinguished? It needs to stand out...the Opel stands out....distinguished sounds like it is going to be bored down...

[Blair1118]

Originally Posted by mrgto

Distinguished? It needs to stand out...the Opel stands out....distinguished sounds like it is going to be bored down...

My guess is that the Insignia would probably end up being too-tech laden to fit a Saturn price point, like it or not people aren't willing to pay $40,000 for a Saturn, atleast not yet, so they have to dumb it down a bit to sell any of them

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by windvale

So GM builds the Aura, Insignia, G6, Malibu, 9-3, what else ?
Why does GM keep diluting their diminishing resources building endless mid-size cars ???
Just build one great mid-size !
US Senator Richard Shelby called GM a dinosaur.
He's right...

Because they have brands, and each brand needs a midsized car.
The midsized market is the most heavily contested market, and constantly fight back and forth for top spot.
Aura and Insigna would in turn, by the same car, or should be.
Putting more cars on the same platform keeps production costs down, and profitability up. Everyone does it, its what GM used to do so well, and its what they need to focus on in the future.

[fp115]

Originally Posted by mrgto

Distinguished? It needs to stand out...the Opel stands out....distinguished sounds like it is going to be bored down...

Not at all, there is no reason to do that. Distinguished as in be somewhat more provocative.

[FierySolstice]

Originally Posted by Blair1118

My guess is that the Insignia would probably end up being too-tech laden to fit a Saturn price point, like it or not people aren't willing to pay $40,000 for a Saturn, atleast not yet, so they have to dumb it down a bit to sell any of them

I agree, I really am coming to the conclusion that the Insignia should go to Buick, but with more Buick-like sheetmetal and Saturn be absorbed into Pontiac and Buick. When you ask the common person about Saturn, they still think of the plastic cars that don't dent when a shopping cart hit them. When they "redid" Saturn, they should of renamed them Opel or something different, hmm I dunno, maybe Oldsmobile since they are going right where Olds left off.

[CadiEldo67]

Originally Posted by windvale

So GM builds the Aura, Insignia, G6, Malibu, 9-3, what else ?
Why does GM keep diluting their diminishing resources building endless mid-size cars ???
Just build one great mid-size !
US Senator Richard Shelby called GM a dinosaur.
He's right...

It could also be argued that most of those US Senators have been around since the founding of GM, also making them dinosaurs.

[Beau]

The insignia sheetmetal is already going to Buick, whats the problem here?

[usa1]

Good job GM. The Aura, Malibu, now this. Good run.

Mark

[O_Z]

Originally Posted by andretti2008

GM, we need the new Aura here now to fight against your tough rivals! If the Insignia won in Europe, my God thats a good signal for the States. I you bring these great cars here they will buy, it will pay off in the long run! Aura now Lutz!

Insignia compete with Passat and probably Laguna
So, how many Passats VW sells here and how many Laguna Renault is able to sell in this country?


Insignia will serve well only as niche car

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by mrgto

But Lutz doesn't want to bring it here as it is for the new Aura......Sorry Bob, you're wrong on this one. Bring it over as it is and with a manual tranny.

Nope. Insignia is coming as Lacrosse/Regal/whatever.
A new Aura will be coming at a later date.

So much for the "euro influenced" Saturn.

[fp115]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

Nope. Insignia is coming as Lacrosse/Regal/whatever.
A new Aura will be coming at a later date.

So much for the "euro influenced" Saturn.

Yeah I don't get it either, but I do think the Insignia looks better as a Buick.

[andretti2008]

Originally Posted by O_Z

Insignia compete with Passat and probably Laguna
So, how many Passats VW sells here and how many Laguna Renault is able to sell in this country?


Insignia will serve well only as niche car

OK...you win dude! you won! I wont argue with you! you won! great point! great! and you tried so hard to prove me the fool that you missed your S in compete. Your a stand up guy!

And don't you mean worldwide because Renault does not even sell cars in the US?

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by fp115

Yeah I don't get it either, but I do think the Insignia looks better as a Buick.

Oh I don't. I think Buick should have the more "distinguished" look. And I think it should be better featured than the Insignia.

[momolos]

So when the new Astra comes out and sells at Saturn dealerships but looks exactly like a Buick that won't confuse the American auto buying public at all? GM is a joke man I root for them my whole life and they still unfortunatly have no clue how to run their business!

I don't understand how the Insignia isn't here as a Saturn already. As it stands right now they have no clue what to do with that car in regards to NA. I mean Buick is getting the LaCrosse and the Insignia? How does that make any sense? What they need two midsize cars? Granted the Insignia is smaller than the LaCrosse but not by much. The Insignia is gigger than the current Aura so how does it make sense for Buick to get both of these EPII cars I don't understand!