French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

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    French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/french...--finance.html

    March 20, 2017
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    PARIS (AP) French investigators say they have found evidence of possible emissions fraud in Fiat, Renault, Peugeot-Citroen and Volkswagen cars sold in France, but have found no proof of fraud in Opel vehicles.

    The Finance Ministry announced in a statement Monday that its consumer fraud agency has closed its investigation into Opel, having found no "facts constituting an infraction of fraud."

    The ministry said the agency, DGCCRF, has handed documents to French courts in recent months showing "evidence of fraud" in emissions controls concerning Volkswagen, Renault, Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot Citroen. The ministry did not specify whether investigators found cheating software, or so-called defeat devices, to trick emissions tests.

    Now it is up to the French justice system to determine whether to send the companies to trial.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Good news for Opel and GM, I'd imagine if fraud was found it would impact the sales price. Though I wonder if said sale had something to do with no fraud found on Opel's side being that it is a French company buying Opel. Meaning France want's to help out its home team.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    And Renault another French Company is still under investigation and now the investigation has expanded. So don't see this as having any bearing at all.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by FactChecker90803 View Post
    And Renault another French Company is still under investigation and now the investigation has expanded. So don't see this as having any bearing at all.
    No bearing on what?

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    This is good for Opel and they ought to be telling about the fact that their hands were found to be clean in this incident.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Good news for Opel and GM, I'd imagine if fraud was found it would impact the sales price (though I wonder if said sale had something to do with no fraud on Opel's side being that it is a French company buying Opel).
    Do you mean GM NA expected a different result and that was the reason GM did a fire sale? Hmmmm
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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Toto View Post
    Do you mean GM NA expected a different result and that was the reason GM did a fire sale? Hmmmm
    No, was just wondering if France gave Opel a pass to help along the acquisition which ultimately bolsters a French company. Meaning the French government has more to gain by Opel being cleared of any wrongdoing and smoothing the way for PSA to acquire them. If Opel is fined/found guilty it may impact the sale.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    No, was just wondering if France gave Opel a pass to help along the acquisition which ultimately bolsters a French company. Meaning the French government has more to gain by Opel being cleared of any wrongdoing and smoothing the way for PSA to acquire them. If Opel is fined/found guilty it may impact the sale.
    Nup - it's more likely they'd indicate there's a fraud to drive the price down if that were the case. I think you'll find with the French, the bureaucracy is a law unto themselves.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by BBDOS CV8 View Post
    Nup - it's more likely they'd indicate there's a fraud to drive the price down if that were the case. I think you'll find with the French, the bureaucracy is a law unto themselves.
    Or risk GM not selling if they can't get any money....

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Or maybe they weren't guilty of fraud... ? Nah.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    No, was just wondering if France gave Opel a pass to help along the acquisition which ultimately bolsters a French company. Meaning the French government has more to gain by Opel being cleared of any wrongdoing and smoothing the way for PSA to acquire them. If Opel is fined/found guilty it may impact the sale.
    I wonder if that was PART of PSA's interest in Opel
    I would not be surprised if the govt "sprang a leak" regarding the testing and PSA is "buying" a solution to there issues

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Fraud or no Fraud..... you still have many a 'reported' / bad looking Opel / Vauxhall 'RW Test Result' to explain.

    Which may or may be about a different kinda' Fraud........ within the whole Diesel Test Fraud thingie.

    Can't take any of it seriously until Gassers ( all kinds ) are put thru as unfavorable a Process.... en masse.

    Especially on the 'ole Davis Dam Route....... on the right Day....... with the right Load and Trailer .... in an American LD Full Size Pick Up with a Gasser Turbo..... but I digress....

    And all the Special Interest Plays on Electrification are exposed for what they really are - within the Global Warming Fraud ( there's that word again. )

    Also.... want a Good 'Comparo' between say Conventional Gassers / Diesels versus Battery whatever concerning On Board EMR....

    Need to get all the Battery Slave Labor stuff out in the Open as well....
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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Some recent reports have FCA being investigated, bad news for FCA talks with VW. I thought there might be some hope for VW and FCA, not if they find cheating by FCA.

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by jossch View Post
    Some recent reports have FCA being investigated, bad news for FCA talks with VW. I thought there might be some hope for VW and FCA, not if they find cheating by FCA.
    first I thought VW said NO!!!!!!!!!

    and FCA has bean "loose" with its numbers for a few years now and the EPA has suspended ECODIESEL sales in the USA

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    Re: French emissions probe clears Opel; others accused of fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by jossch View Post
    Some recent reports have FCA being investigated, bad news for FCA talks with VW. I thought there might be some hope for VW and FCA, not if they find cheating by FCA.
    And FCA was cleared by German authorities last week.

    French Government is doing something which is not by EU rulebook.

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