STS eclipsed by CTS

WalterBellhaven · 11-27-2007, 12:59 PM

2008 Review from Chicago Sun Times

STS eclipsed by CTS

November 27, 2007
BY JILL CIMINILLO SearchChicago - Autos Editor
I need to start this review by saying that I absolutely loved the all-new 2008 Cadillac CTS. Loved it. From the fit and finish to the ride and handling, I thought the new CTS was close to perfect. In fact, the only negative I cited (Sept. 18, 2008 Cadillac CTS) is that the CTS needs "a groove or hole that will allow an MP3 player to emerge from the center console for easy adjustment." This is minor, and in all other respects, I loved the CTS.
So, it is almost with regret that I write the 2008 Cadillac STS review. Even though it got some tweaks for 2008, the STS gets upstaged by its cheaper little brother.

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**mgescuro** · 11-27-2007, 01:22 PM

STS would not have been upstaged if they used the SLS interior.
Apparently, they believe that STS is no longer deserving of real upgrades. It's a pathetic decision.

That being said, the new STS upgrades are nice. Better fit and finish. Somewhat better materials. But the car remains outclassed. And that's just sad.

1BadPig · 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM

Yeah, the new STS just look like a softer/rounder old CTS. Caddy went cheap with the upgrade.

asrapid · 11-27-2007, 01:37 PM

How long until the end of STS production?

**mgescuro** · 11-27-2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asrapid

How long until the end of STS production?

3 years would be my best guess.

asrapid · 11-27-2007, 02:07 PM

that is toooo long.

Ach · 11-27-2007, 02:11 PM

I know I'm in the small minority here, but I like the styling of the STS better- in person, I prefer its proportions and stance, and it looks more upscale to me.

Of course, this doesn't change the facts that the CTS has similar performance and room, and a much better interior, for thousands less. I really feel frustrated by the STS- I can't escape the sneaking suspicion that the car, with just a little more attention, could have been a worldbeater.

86fleet · 11-27-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

3 years would be my best guess.

Really? The first-gen CTS was produced from MY2003 to MY2007. Wouldn't it make sense that the new STS would appear in MY2010? Still a little long, but better than three years.

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Originally Posted by Ach

I know I'm in the small minority here, but I like the styling of the STS better- in person, I prefer its proportions and stance, and it looks more upscale to me.

I would agree with you about the first-gen CTS vs the STS, but the new one blows the STS out of the water, inside and out.

**mgescuro** · 11-27-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 86fleet

Really? The first-gen CTS was produced from MY2003 to MY2007. Wouldn't it make sense that the new STS would appear in MY2010? Still a little long, but better than three years.

There is no new STS.
CTS will move up the ladder and slot where STS was.
BLS will move in and slot where CTS was supposed to be.
"XLS" will enter the game replacing STS and DTS as a more "traditional" offering.

I think 2010 makes the most sense. That would be perfect timing for a CTS MCE.

CADILLACSIXTEEN · 11-27-2007, 02:29 PM

They should have discontinued the STS when the CTS was introduced.

Lets face it, anyone who goes out looking at a new STS will probably be driving home in a new CTS for thousands less.

There would be no loss of sales, because I am very confident that the potential sales would be lost to the comparable in size CTS and the larger DTS.

They could save a lot of money if they just can it now.

DuSpinnst · 11-27-2007, 02:34 PM

Next STS/DTS won't appear until MY 2012.

Hoosier Red · 11-27-2007, 02:42 PM

I really don't know who would buy an STS over a CTS. I'd feel kind of like I was dating the nice girl with a smoking hot younger sister.

Aromanances · 11-27-2007, 02:54 PM

Having the Commie interior and extra wheelbase would work wonders for the car... But no we get the stail stuff again.... The STS was to small from the begining....

asrapid · 11-27-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

Next STS/DTS won't appear until MY 2012.

Thats even worst. If that is true then CTS will be the biggest sedan in cadillac lineup in next 5 years??

.
I don't think this is good news if cadillac wants to be standard of the world again.

LONGHORN · 11-27-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

Next STS/DTS won't appear until MY 2012.

That is sooooo sad..........I give it 2 years max before the present car is discontinued...........I too like the original STS before the added CTS fender slits. It was just proportioned right. If GM would have kept the STS price at $40K it would have been a real seller. Instead GM fell into the same trap Honda did with the new RL. Just because you price at $50K,doesn't make it an automatic contender at that level.

Gm will eventually discontinue the STS and use the extra capacity to build more CTSes.

11-27-2007, 12:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
WalterBellhaven Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atascadero State Hospital Posts: 38	STS eclipsed by CTS 2008 Review from Chicago Sun Times STS eclipsed by CTS November 27, 2007 BY JILL CIMINILLO SearchChicago - Autos Editor I need to start this review by saying that I absolutely loved the all-new 2008 Cadillac CTS. Loved it. From the fit and finish to the ride and handling, I thought the new CTS was close to perfect. In fact, the only negative I cited (Sept. 18, 2008 Cadillac CTS) is that the CTS needs "a groove or hole that will allow an MP3 player to emerge from the center console for easy adjustment." This is minor, and in all other respects, I loved the CTS. So, it is almost with regret that I write the 2008 Cadillac STS review. Even though it got some tweaks for 2008, the STS gets upstaged by its cheaper little brother. Article continues at link: http://searchchicago.suntimes.com/au...112707.article

11-27-2007, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
mgescuro GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 23,148	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS STS would not have been upstaged if they used the SLS interior. Apparently, they believe that STS is no longer deserving of real upgrades. It's a pathetic decision. That being said, the new STS upgrades are nice. Better fit and finish. Somewhat better materials. But the car remains outclassed. And that's just sad. __________________ 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 1995 Mercedes C280 1994 Jaguar XJ6 ...when all hope is gone, you know sad songs say so much... My Vision of Cadillac My Vision of Cadillac (REDUX)

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1BadPig 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 2,035	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS Yeah, the new STS just look like a softer/rounder old CTS. Caddy went cheap with the upgrade. __________________ Current Rides 2006 Chevrolet HHR 1LT Sunburst Orange Metallic 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe LT3 Gold Mist Metallic

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asrapid 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 767	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS How long until the end of STS production?

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Ach 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Mar 2006 Drives: Ford SVT Contour BMW 635CSi Posts: 1,269	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS I know I'm in the small minority here, but I like the styling of the STS better- in person, I prefer its proportions and stance, and it looks more upscale to me. Of course, this doesn't change the facts that the CTS has similar performance and room, and a much better interior, for thousands less. I really feel frustrated by the STS- I can't escape the sneaking suspicion that the car, with just a little more attention, could have been a worldbeater. __________________ The Fleet: 2007 Lincoln MKZ 2000 Ford SVT Contour 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 1985 BMW 635CSi The Past: 1997 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC 1995 BMW 530i 1998 Olds Aurora 1994 Infiniti Q45t 1988 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1989 Acura Legend Coupe L 1989 Olds Eighty Eight Royale

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CADILLACSIXTEEN 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Drives: 2006 Fusion Orange Metallic Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe Posts: 1,396	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS They should have discontinued the STS when the CTS was introduced. Lets face it, anyone who goes out looking at a new STS will probably be driving home in a new CTS for thousands less. There would be no loss of sales, because I am very confident that the potential sales would be lost to the comparable in size CTS and the larger DTS. They could save a lot of money if they just can it now. __________________

11-27-2007, 02:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
DuSpinnst Starship Enterpise Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 17,204	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS Next STS/DTS won't appear until MY 2012. __________________ The moderation here gets an F for FAILURE.

11-27-2007, 02:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hoosier Red 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2005 Drives: 2003 Corvette Posts: 834	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS I really don't know who would buy an STS over a CTS. I'd feel kind of like I was dating the nice girl with a smoking hot younger sister. __________________ "If you don't want to go fast, then quit racing and go do something else. And you might want to get some kerosene rags and tie them around your ankles. That'll keep the bugs from crawling up your legs and eating your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt

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Aromanances 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 334	Re: STS eclipsed by CTS Having the Commie interior and extra wheelbase would work wonders for the car... But no we get the stail stuff again.... The STS was to small from the begining....

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