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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by vrocks View Post
    The overly convoluted touch UI doesn't belong in a car. However, If they insist on using them, the performance needs to be far more snappy and intuitive. There's no excuse for such slow running UIs in modern cars. They're basically a pain in the ass to use.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Will they put CUE in the Spark? They could call it SUE for Spark User Expierience.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by jadis View Post
    100% Agree
    CUE is a marketing ploy in my mind to "appeal" to a younger market and try to be hip saying it is the wave of the future by drawing comparisons to the iPad. It is a gimmick in my mind. Since when was the iPad designed to be used jogging or without looking at it?

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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    I see that CR didn't differentiate between City Car (Mirco Car) and Subcompact. Yes lets put a list of cars that the Spark doesn't compete with as a comparison measure for its rating. At least they listed the iQ at the bottom. Anyone know the rating of the Fiat 500? Safety/reliability is the biggest drawback to it likely (and price).

    Quote Originally Posted by vrocks View Post
    The overly convoluted touch UI doesn't belong in a car. However, If they insist on using them, the performance needs to be far more snappy and intuitive. There's no excuse for such slow running UIs in modern cars. They're basically a pain in the ass to use.
    It makes no sense what so ever to put a slow UI in a car that controls all the functions. I want to chunk my Android whenever it gets slow. There is absolutely zero excuse for having a slow unresponsive system installed in car that controls so much like CUE, MyLink, etc. I am a fan of buttons and knobs, but I want the added functionality of the MyLink system.

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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by jadis View Post
    CUE is a marketing ploy in my mind to "appeal" to a younger market and try to be hip saying it is the wave of the future by drawing comparisons to the iPad. It is a gimmick in my mind. Since when was the iPad designed to be used jogging or without looking at it?
    I'm not sure I'd call it a marketing ploy but I'd agree they're pretty much a gimmick.

    These infotainment systems have become basically a requirement in luxury cars, even though they're fairly pointless.

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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    This doesnt suprise me that they rated the XTS lower because of CUE. While the mylink/intellilink system can be picked up with relative ease by some, you still need a proper training session to use all of the infotainment systems offered by GM and elsewhere. I assume that they were just handed the keys and left to figure these out on their own, and NO ONE has built an interface as easy as an iPad yet. If this magazine is going to be advocates for "consumers", then they need to go through the same process a consumer would and have a qualified GM salesman or employee train them on the systems. Otherwise everything they say is uninformed bias.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    This is supposed to be a surprise - big friggin' deal.

    I think the best judgment of anything is how you, as a consumer and a driver, feel about it. Personally, I really appreciate my XTS and the Spark that I sat in was a nice vehicle. This is CR we're talking about, from them, even a jockstrap would merit a poor rating if they couldn't get it to fit.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by jadis View Post
    CUE is a marketing ploy in my mind to "appeal" to a younger market and try to be hip saying it is the wave of the future by drawing comparisons to the iPad. It is a gimmick in my mind. Since when was the iPad designed to be used jogging or without looking at it?
    It isn't a "marketing ploy." It's price of entry in the luxury market.

    You can try and draw comparisons to iPad, but to date, there really is no competition or comparison to iPad in terms of ease of use and capabilities.

    CUE isn't a gimmick. If CUE isn't designed well, then that's the fault of the designers, engineers, and UI people who worked on it. If it really does suck, then GM should hire some (or hire better) human interface designers.

    You can operate portions of iOS devices without looking at a screen. And in some cases, you can activate some features by just holding a button on the phone/tablet or on the headphone cord. It's not robust, but it's only getting more robust with each subsequent update.

    I would expect CUE to do the same.

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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by Stéphane Dumas View Post
    Does the Spark is also compared to the Fiat 500?
    No the Fiat 500 suppose to be Mini competition, because of its luxury and "sigma" that suppose to go with it.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Quote Originally Posted by vrocks View Post
    The overly convoluted touch UI doesn't belong in a car. However, If they insist on using them, the performance needs to be far more snappy and intuitive. There's no excuse for such slow running UIs in modern cars. They're basically a pain in the ass to use.
    I agree, who needs IDrive, Mytouch or CUE when all that tech is basically obsolete by the time you drive it home?

    All that new cars need in the not too distant future is a USB port to plug in any device and a stand/support attachment to cradle the device. Each person already knows how to use their personal smart phone, tablet or laptop, which can be upgrade much easier than those unique systems entombed in the dashboard.
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Consumer Reports aside. I think GM should do a Sedan DeVille without CUE. There are older buyers who may find the CUE system a bit too much. I know my old man would have a heck of a time navigating CUE knowing him to be a very analog type of guy. We have a older member here at GMI who bought a XTS. I wonder how he manages with CUE?

    I like how CR pits the Spark small car against subcompacts like the Fit and Rio, which goes to show their inherent bias. They should be sued..
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    Is there an "infortainment" system that CR actually likes? Maybe GM should have given them an XTS to test with a corporate black tie radio
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    Re: New Cadillac XTS & Chevy Spark Fail To Make Grade At CR

    I wouldn't grill CR over complaining about CUE in the XTS, most reviews have complained about it. Its really ashamed GM didn't learn from Ford's mistake but copied it. As far as a non-crappy infotainment system, Chrysler's newest Uconnect 8.4" systems are usually praised. Appears to be responsive and they atleast have secondary physical buttons so you don't have to fumble with the touch screen or touch sensitive buttons to accomplish basic functions.

    As for the Spark what else did they expect? Small **** boxes like that are going to be loud, it's not a full-size Buick, it's a golf cart with doors.
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