First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge; Lutz Responds - Page 3

MonaroSS · 10-27-2009, 08:02 PM

They may not have minded coming second the the CTS-V.

But someone probably had it dawn on them that one Make was going to come last to all the others.... and it could be them.

63GrandSport001 · 10-27-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

Yup. I agree. The XFR should be able to run its paces.
Which does make it puzzling, as XFR was Ring tuned and has made more than its share of runs there.
Also, it did break the land speed record at Bonneville.

So what gives? There's something else behind this move.

But if it's simply because they didn't want to get shown up by the CTS-V, I'd be really disappointed. Because, anyone with eyes can see that the match up -- every match up -- would favor CTS-V.

You would think that this car being tuned on the ring that it would be able to handle 5 laps on this track....... though its perfectly possible that this track is harder on brakes then the ring.

And lets be honest, cars like the XFR while it has a lot of go fast parts is still a production car and they really are not made to do serious track work (with very few exceptions). After all how many XFR owners will even take these cars to the tracks? if I had one I honestly wouldn't have taken it to the track. Ring tuned is more PR then anything else.

Burnout Czar · 10-27-2009, 08:23 PM

Pathetic

A.J. · 10-27-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by megeebee

In this case, the CTS-V would be the taunting frenchman throwing a cow via a catapult.

PR-ICE-L-ESS.

Hurricane · 10-27-2009, 08:33 PM

Too funny!

I am reeeallly liking the CTS-V more and more - I want one!

MyImpalaSS · 10-27-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1931Chevy

I know they are not on the same class but what about the SHO

Not a chance.

b4z · 10-27-2009, 09:05 PM

"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time."

I doubt seriously that you could take most street cars regardless of whether they have Brembos or not and have no problems with the brakes after 5 laps. I would think the pads and brake fluid would need to be changed out prior to hot lapping.

My '06 GTO has stock PBRs and i slightly warped the rotors after only 5 miles on the Tail of the Dragon last May.

V8GMT360 Guy · 10-27-2009, 09:08 PM

So.... will the race Thursday even happen? All the pansy-ass competitors are dropping out, so the CTS-V wins by default.

"Cadillac CTS-V: The only sports sedan you can actually USE as a sports sedan."

:rofl:

Aromanances · 10-27-2009, 09:26 PM

OK If I were driving in Formula One, Nascar, Lamans, ect. If I did not win tha race. Could I go to the officials after the race and explain to then my car was not as fast or handle as good as the winner, but my car is better. Would I be the winner?????? Sorry euro trash excuse..... How arrogant and condescending this guy is to make a stupid statement like that...

stevecmh · 10-27-2009, 09:32 PM

BMW??? some one .. anyone?

shorod · 10-27-2009, 09:43 PM

Don't any of you think this was planned all along? Liability alone would keep most from taking up this challenge. And "Uncle Bob" goes away looking like the night in shining armor.
But I'm still going to be the fly in the ointment. I challenge, no I DARE some of you GMI editors to show up with a G8/GXP and MAKE "Uncle Bob" race the CTS-V against it. If the CTS-V is so much better, what is he afraid of in racing against it?? If the GXP gets beat, so what, its an orphan(thanks to GM).

eaton53 · 10-27-2009, 09:45 PM

Not unexpected.... overrated Euros turn tail when someone calls them out.
Maybe some owners will willing to come get their whoopin', manufacturers "reputation" be damned...

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I challenge, no I DARE some of you GMI editors to show up with a G8/GXP and MAKE "Uncle Bob" race the CTS-V against it.

I'd love to see that.... not because MB would have any trouble dispatching a GXP, but because it might take out some of the pretenders.

Elvisuperman · 10-27-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1931Chevy

I know they are not on the same class but what about the SHO

C'mon, Really???

AMERICA 123 · 10-27-2009, 09:56 PM

And some said that MB ( Mr Lutz ) doesn't understand marketing .....

Sir William Lyons who also did - and much more than that is spinning away in his grave tonight.

Wow, sure is a quiet when all the marketing, spin, propaganda, & advertorials...... - along with those that believe their largely 'created' brand images that all that can buy get a real guy with a real car - and a real throw down.

GMusa · 10-27-2009, 10:19 PM

love it! American muscle baby!

10-27-2009, 08:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
MonaroSS GMI Contributor Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,778	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge They may not have minded coming second the the CTS-V. But someone probably had it dawn on them that one Make was going to come last to all the others.... and it could be them.

10-27-2009, 08:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
Burnout Czar 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Office of The Burnout Czar Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT 2000 Chevrolet S-10 Posts: 356	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge Pathetic __________________ From the office of the Burnout Czar.

10-27-2009, 08:33 PM	#35 (permalink)
Hurricane News Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,429	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge Too funny! I am reeeallly liking the CTS-V more and more - I want one! __________________ 2007 Yukon XL Denali 2006 Chevrolet Corvette

10-27-2009, 09:05 PM	#37 (permalink)
b4z 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,173	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge "Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time." I doubt seriously that you could take most street cars regardless of whether they have Brembos or not and have no problems with the brakes after 5 laps. I would think the pads and brake fluid would need to be changed out prior to hot lapping. My '06 GTO has stock PBRs and i slightly warped the rotors after only 5 miles on the Tail of the Dragon last May.

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V8GMT360 Guy 3.0 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lansing, MI Drives: 08 GMC Sierra Crew, 09 GMC Envoy Denali Posts: 569	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge So.... will the race Thursday even happen? All the pansy-ass competitors are dropping out, so the CTS-V wins by default. "Cadillac CTS-V: The only sports sedan you can actually USE as a sports sedan." :rofl:

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10-27-2009, 09:26 PM	#39 (permalink)
Aromanances 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Mar 2006 Drives: 2008 CTS 1969 Corvette 1968 Firebird Posts: 368	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge OK If I were driving in Formula One, Nascar, Lamans, ect. If I did not win tha race. Could I go to the officials after the race and explain to then my car was not as fast or handle as good as the winner, but my car is better. Would I be the winner?????? Sorry euro trash excuse..... How arrogant and condescending this guy is to make a stupid statement like that...

10-27-2009, 09:32 PM	#40 (permalink)
stevecmh 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Muskego, WI Drives: 04' Grand Prix GT 08' Pierce Impel Ladder Truck Posts: 3,865	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge BMW??? some one .. anyone?

10-27-2009, 09:43 PM	#41 (permalink)
shorod 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 169	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge Don't any of you think this was planned all along? Liability alone would keep most from taking up this challenge. And "Uncle Bob" goes away looking like the night in shining armor. But I'm still going to be the fly in the ointment. I challenge, no I DARE some of you GMI editors to show up with a G8/GXP and MAKE "Uncle Bob" race the CTS-V against it. If the CTS-V is so much better, what is he afraid of in racing against it?? If the GXP gets beat, so what, its an orphan(thanks to GM).

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AMERICA 123 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Aug 2007 Drives: The bailout pkg Posts: 4,718	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge And some said that MB ( Mr Lutz ) doesn't understand marketing ..... Sir William Lyons who also did - and much more than that is spinning away in his grave tonight. Wow, sure is a quiet when all the marketing, spin, propaganda, & advertorials...... - along with those that believe their largely 'created' brand images that all that can buy get a real guy with a real car - and a real throw down. __________________ In regards to the VOLT With a typical annual driving pattern < totaling 11,390 miles - including three 450 mile trips and a bunch of 40 mile plus per days > and assuming you only charge <once > per overnight: Vehicle ……………… Gallons per year Volt ………………….. 37 Prius ………………… 228 30 MPG car ………… 380 20 MPG car ………… 570 Dave G. Last edited by AMERICA 123 : 10-27-2009 at 10:34 PM.

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GMusa 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio. U.S.A! Posts: 3,101	Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge love it! American muscle baby! __________________ -JD My Ride: 2005 Ford Mustang GT Coupe (Getting ready to trade up!) Project Car: 1969 Javelin SST 290 Family's Cars: -2010 Ford Fusion SE (Sport Blue) -2007 Chevy Cobalt Sedan LT -2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GT -1997 Chevy Camaro V6 30th Anniversary Edition -1998 Ford Taurus SE -1997 Oldsmobile Acheiva Sedan

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