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Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
I'm truly disappointed Jaguar pulled out with its XFR. I drove it and thought it was a fine vehicle..
Not as cool or as fast as the CTS V but I didnt think it couldn't pull 5 laps at speed. thats just about the worst PR statement I have ever heard. that guy should be fired. Lutz on the other hand deserves two thumbs up.
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
I wonder if Lutz is going to milk this for all its worth. "So frightened, they wouldn't even come out and play."
Pathetic.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
DAMN! If there was ever a car that came close to the CTS-V isn power and price, it was the XF-R. Shame really...
I dont understand why the car's brakes would be a problem? They are pretty massive from the last time I looked at them, and Jag added extra large holes in the front facia for better cooling... Pretty lame guys. Maybe its cause Tata is loosing too much money, they dont want to go racing and lose face.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Toledo, OH
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
ahhhhh this is just plain great!
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GMI Europe Correspondent
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
They've realized they are spending their budget and risking crashing a very expensive vehicle in a PR disaster in a promotional event for GM. I am surprised any manufacturer was actually willing to supply a vehicle. Or maybe it's just a fake and Jalopnik is hoping Jaguar won't even feel moved enough to sue...
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
So much for Jaguar having a performance version...I guess R stands for "Run away"
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3.6 Liter SIDI V6
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
Someone chickened out...
Ha, ha! What an absolute embarrassment for Jaguar and Mercedes. So much for "superior design." Hanging their heads in shame...Could even race an almost 80-year-old guy!!! LUTZ: PLEASE PUT THIS IN YOUR NEXT SET OF COMMERCIALS!!! PLEASE!!! :-) |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
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It's obvious that no car in this class would outrun the CTS-V. A more interesting comparison would have been the Audi RS6 with the V10 BiTurbo. It actually has more HP than the CTS-V.
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2.8 Liter Turbocharged V6
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
Damn...I hope the challange still rolls...I was hoping to see a battle.
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
I know they are not on the same class but what about the SHO
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3.6 Liter SIDI V6
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
If a sports car's brakes can't handle five laps, I gotta say--someone should be fired. Probably several someones. That's really, REALLY pathetic.
Way to fail, Jaguar. Way to fail. |
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
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It's sort of like a high end watch, we both know I could take a Seamaster well past even its specs, and there's a reason a Speedmaster went to the moon.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
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Which does make it puzzling, as XFR was Ring tuned and has made more than its share of runs there. Also, it did break the land speed record at Bonneville. So what gives? There's something else behind this move. But if it's simply because they didn't want to get shown up by the CTS-V, I'd be really disappointed. Because, anyone with eyes can see that the match up -- every match up -- would favor CTS-V.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: First Mercedes, now Jaguar pulls out of Lutz CTS-V Challenge
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