European hunting season cancelled: Cadillac CTS-V not crossing Atlantic

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by DealerGuyAtl

Great post. I agree with you completely. It would appear that most of the people ranting on this board have no idea what is involved in getting a vehicle approved for sale in our country or any other. It's not a trivial expense.

CTS is already localized for sale in Europe. What additional is left for CTS-V?
And don't even say it's because of low volume... because XLR-V is sold in Europe.

[GMusa]

This kinda sucks.. i would love to see the CTS-V tear up the M5 on its home grounds!

[jasaero]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

CTS is already localized for sale in Europe. What additional is left for CTS-V?
And don't even say it's because of low volume... because XLR-V is sold in Europe.

XLR-V happened before GM was getting criticized for every dime it was spending that didn't make a return. I am surprised they haven't dropped the Volt. Guess they atleast understand that is more important than stock price.

[jasaero]

My opinion on this subject is that they would rather wait for the CTW-V to intro a V-series of the CTS range in Europe!! The fact they aren't even sending the CTS-V to europe though gets me a bit concerned a CTW-V isn't even being considered. Hopefully though CTW-V is being considered specifically for Europe!!

[Smaart Aas Saabr]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

The LS is not good enough for Europe?
Or the LS won't meet European emissions standards?
Or the LS sucks up so much gas that at $9/gallon, the CTS-V would be a non-seller.

Well... guess what GM... What do you think the CTS-V is supposed to be?
It's supposed to be for filthy rich people who don't get a damn about gas prices and want the best and fastest car out there.
Getting a CTS-V in Europe is the best way to make an impact.
Big, brash American V8 luxury sedan to run with the M5.

We know a RHD CTS-V is technically not possible because of the engine. But a LHD CTS-V should have no problem in Europe.

What's GM's stupid reason this time around?

Give it up Cadillac. You will NEVER be the standard of the world. You will NEVER make an impact in Europe. You will NEVER be more than a 2nd tier luxury brand.

Let's consider the reasons

Firstly the 120 g/km standard in EU. GM has to meet this. Now for Opel/Saab alone it is hard to meet. Does Cadillac/Corvette get lumped in with them or are they treated distinctly? EU is picky about this (see Porsche-VW dealings)

Second is production capacity. CTS-V sells pretty well in US/Canada. Is there a waiting list already in N.America to get one of these? If so it is stupid to "sell" cars in Europe when you can't actually build them.

[peterj2706]

Originally Posted by asrapid

Is GM ruining cadillac attentional or are they just stupid?
So for now cadillac cts will offer 3 engine in europe...diesel and two v6. And they want to compete against german trio . Does GM even know what German companies are offering here?

German cars here?? Where??? If it wasn't invented by the General, it doesn't exist, so there ain't no stinking German cars here. No Asians either!! And that's the truth, as GM knows it!

[schmallz]

Those in Europe interseted in the CTS-V will be able to get thier hands on one if they sell them there or not.

[Exploder]

Interestingly, a Dutch auto website says this info may be untrue:
(translated to English, hope it works)
http://translate.google.com.my/trans...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[blkwrxsti]

Exploder, I hope that Dutch site is right - Cadillac doesn't really need to make money on these, it needs a halo, even if it costs them some money and us some more expensive CTS-Vs

BTW - Here's a list of systems that are typically tested for type approval:

http://www.vca.gov.uk/vehicletype/car-image.asp

Here's the process this third party makes you go through. I'm not sure if GM works with someone like this or if they have their own export group (I'm guessing they do). Either way it sounds like the sort of thing that could keep a few people busy for a couple of months if they have to retest the engine, the brakes, the tires, frontal impact and pedestrian protection stuff. The front end is different, the weight is different - it may not be different enough to matter, but the EU isn't going to sign based on "it's close".

http://www.vca.gov.uk/additional/fil...ion/vca047.pdf

[jzEllis]

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!

[eaton53]

Originally Posted by Mikkoo

Rumors are running
rampant on another thread that the supercharged 6.2 L Z28 have been shelved, and the top dog for the Camaro will be the LS2 400hp SS.

Whatever it is, better get it while you can.
History is repeating itself and the calendar reads 1972...

[yello430]

Not true ! The CTS-V will be available in Europe . Don't know where this rumor began .

[HVM]

Here are czech 2008 H1 E segment luxury sales

Audi A6.............410
BMW 5 Series.....185
Volvo XC70........146
M-B E-Class.......108
Volvo V70...........77
Volvo S80...........64
M-B CLS-Class.....32
Jaguar S-Type.....27
Chrysler 300C......21
Lexus GS............14
Jaguar XF.............5
Citroen C6............4
Saab 9-5.............4
Cadillac CTS.....1

Cadillac brand YTD......28
Porsche brand YTD.......112
Hummer brand YTD.........37
Ferrari brand YTD...........18

[T-Type]

Lock & Load: CTS-V to go hunting in Europe after all

The above thread pretty much kills this thread. The CTS-V IS coming to Europe.