European hunting season cancelled: Cadillac CTS-V not crossing Atlantic

[Toto]

From Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/11/e...ot-crossing-a/

[eurohazard]

Dang that sucks. I wonder if regular CTS sales are good.....if GM will change their minds? I know they cite Europeans not wanting an engine that big....but why not let the Europeans be the judge of that?

[PrenupTB]

Cadillac will never be anything in Europe with GM's inept management. I have to believe this has something to do with the catastrophic failure of the BLS.

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by article

Caddy's U.S. minders don't think the V's blown V8 is good for Europe.

The LS is not good enough for Europe?
Or the LS won't meet European emissions standards?
Or the LS sucks up so much gas that at $9/gallon, the CTS-V would be a non-seller.

Well... guess what GM... What do you think the CTS-V is supposed to be?
It's supposed to be for filthy rich people who don't get a damn about gas prices and want the best and fastest car out there.
Getting a CTS-V in Europe is the best way to make an impact.
Big, brash American V8 luxury sedan to run with the M5.

We know a RHD CTS-V is technically not possible because of the engine. But a LHD CTS-V should have no problem in Europe.

What's GM's stupid reason this time around?

Give it up Cadillac. You will NEVER be the standard of the world. You will NEVER make an impact in Europe. You will NEVER be more than a 2nd tier luxury brand.

[63GrandSport001]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

The LS is not good enough for Europe?
Or the LS won't meet European emissions standards?
Or the LS sucks up so much gas that at $9/gallon, the CTS-V would be a non-seller.

Well... guess what GM... What do you think the CTS-V is supposed to be?
It's supposed to be for filthy rich people who don't get a damn about gas prices and want the best and fastest car out there.
Getting a CTS-V in Europe is the best way to make an impact.
Big, brash American V8 luxury sedan to run with the M5.

We know a RHD CTS-V is technically not possible because of the engine. But a LHD CTS-V should have no problem in Europe.

What's GM's stupid reason this time around?

Give it up Cadillac. You will NEVER be the standard of the world. You will NEVER make an impact in Europe. You will NEVER be more than a 2nd tier luxury brand.

GM management used their superior foresight and planning skills the same one that had them put all of their money in trucks and SUVs and laugh at hybrids and would rather sell 10,000 pound SUV then make some RWD V-8 Impalas.

[jgill16]

Gm Is Trading The Cts-v For A Cts-f F For Fail. What The Hell Is Going On With The Management Of Gm. This Is What Europe Needs A Kick In The But To Show Them That American Muscle Is Back. Cts-v And Cts-v Couple Is The Answer. And Besides We All Know The Rich People In Europe Would Get Their Hands On This Car First, It Would Be An Option And Would Fit In Perfect With M5,amg And Audi But Cost Less It's A No Brainer. Gm Wake Up, Wake Up Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001

GM management used their superior foresight and planning skills the same one that had them put all of their money in trucks and SUVs and laugh at hybrids and would rather sell 10,000 pound SUV then make some RWD V-8 Impalas.

Nah, they spent all the money making hybrids of said SUVs and then canceling all the performance cars in the process.

[spidge]

Originally Posted by PrenupTB

Cadillac will never be anything in Europe with GM's inept management. I have to believe this has something to do with the catastrophic failure of the BLS.

Or the fact that that car was an obvious reskinned version of the Saab 9-3.

[spidge]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

The LS is not good enough for Europe?
Or the LS won't meet European emissions standards?
Or the LS sucks up so much gas that at $9/gallon, the CTS-V would be a non-seller.

Well... guess what GM... What do you think the CTS-V is supposed to be?
It's supposed to be for filthy rich people who don't get a damn about gas prices and want the best and fastest car out there.
Getting a CTS-V in Europe is the best way to make an impact.
Big, brash American V8 luxury sedan to run with the M5.

We know a RHD CTS-V is technically not possible because of the engine. But a LHD CTS-V should have no problem in Europe.

What's GM's stupid reason this time around?

Give it up Cadillac. You will NEVER be the standard of the world. You will NEVER make an impact in Europe. You will NEVER be more than a 2nd tier luxury brand.

Isn't the Corvette on sale in Europe? But then, it has a legendary reputation, and is an American cultural icon.

The CTS-V probably wouldn't make sense in the United Kingdom, since they have the VXR8 there, but Europe...perhaps they are scared of it failing, and it would be a much more expensive failure than the BLS. Cars at that price sell on image, and aside from the BLS, probably not many Europeans are familiar with Cadillac. They are familiar with BMW.

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by spidge

Isn't the Corvette on sale in Europe? But then, it has a legendary reputation, and is an American cultural icon.

The CTS-V probably wouldn't make sense in the United Kingdom, since they have the VXR8 there, but Europe...perhaps they are scared of it failing, and it would be a much more expensive failure than the BLS. Cars at that price sell on image, and aside from the BLS, probably not many Europeans are familiar with Cadillac. They are familiar with BMW.

Corvette is on sale in Europe. It sells based on its reputation.

CTS-V would make absolute sense in the UK, even if the VXR8 was there or not.
This is a Cadillac. This is GM's FLAGSHIP BRAND.
If GM sees CTS-V as competition to a Vauxhall VXR8, then we have a serious problem at GM regarding Cadillac's stature. It's not about performance or the engine, but the fact that this is Cadillac and GM's Flagship Brand.

We know that CTS-V is not capable of being RHD due to the engine and space constraints. That's fine. But there are other countries that are LHD. There is no reason for CTS-V to NOT be in countries like Germany.

If Cadillac wants to regain stature, it needs to sell its entire lineup around the world.
There really is no good excuse for CTS-V to not be sold in European countries that are LHD.

[RCDonner]

I repeat once again:
GM finally has to start to engineer all their cars to be sold worldwide. Engineering costs are too high to make a car available on only one market. Why Cadillac in Europe failed so far is the problem of having not enough dealers, their cars are too expensive, there is almost no advertising and they lack a Diesel option (except BLS). The CTS-V could do some hype for the brand in Europe. But everyone here (in Germany) is so afraid of fuel costs and emissions that it could be that GM will keep its gas guzzler image that they have here. If this is the reason GM doesn´t want to sell the CTS-V here I can understand them. But they really should bring more cars over here for a competitive price and with a Diesel Option (Lambda; Malibu; Lucerne).

[mbukukanyau]

And they think AMG, M and RS are only sold here? Dang!!! GM is run by people who think only their mothers can cook

[Jimmy Jive]

I echo the general sentiment of this thread. The CTS-V should be available in Europe, if even in a limited number. Even a small shipment of 30 - 50, for whatever dealers want them.
Fastest production sedan in the world, sounds like it would sell, if even just to a few.

[mbukukanyau]

They should have alloted just 200 units for Europe, and made a killing by adding American Deliverly at the GM Engine facility, plus an addational US$30,000.00 to US prices. GM is soo silly. The CTS V meets california emmission. Those are more stringent than EU

[asrapid]

Is GM ruining cadillac attentional or are they just stupid?
So for now cadillac cts will offer 3 engine in europe...diesel and two v6. And they want to compete against german trio . Does GM even know what German companies are offering here?