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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
Uh-huh....
Anyone who puts down $86,000-104,000 for an XLR that has THIS pathetic attempt at a roadster... needs a psych evaluation... It is a COMPLETE EMBARRASMENT!! NOT in this segment. NOT in this price class. NOT AGAINST THE MERCEDES SL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! It is not possible for GM to be this stupid.... but they are.... They really are. One can only hope that this is some sad attempt at a mule because if not, it's best Cadillac kill the car now, and redirect resources to Corvette. Best for Cadillac go get the hell out of the $55,000+ market. It is quite obvious they are INCAPABLE of doing what it takes. ![]()
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
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GM is smart enough to know what it needs to do, they are not blind enough to see that it is worse, we have seen this in their new interior, that are on NEW models, you will notice the XLR dates back to 2003, and any interior update has been on new generation models, not facelifts. You will see an amazing XLR, once you see an Amazing corvette, meaning the new generation.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
They REALLY need a new interior! How hard is it to update here and there????? Chrome? More exotic wood choices??? So sad...
If that is the final interior, GM messed this up bad. Definitely not a halo car. |
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
I actually really like the front end on this car.
The only difference that I see between what Cadillac has done to the XLR and what Mercedes has done to the SL is the Mercedes started with a top notch vehicle and Cadillac has not. |
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
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What GM sees is a car that was supposed to sell 5,000 annually but barely cracks 3,000. So they will not do any significant advancements on the car, content to let the car run its course before killing it in 2-3 years. The fundamental problem is... People are not going to buy crap. So you improve the car to the point that it isn't viewed as crap or a cheap alternative. But GM doesn't see it that way. XLR has failed. So why put in money to fix what is wrong with the failure? GM's thinking is bass ackwards. It also proves, that despite all the changes they have executed and are trying to execute, they still cannot and don't know how to build a car that people want. What GM is attempting to sell here is a car that is now 5 years old with barely any significant enhancements to justify an $85,000 price tag. Look at the fonts on the IP and on the shifter. That is the same cartoon font that launched with the Gen 1 CTS!! For crying out loud. GM couldn't pick a better font?? Something more luxurious and not deserving of a Marvel Comic Book?? How hard is it to change a font? Or even a bezel around the shifter? At least they did that... with that cheapie plastic chrome. You know even a Mercury Sable actually uses real brushed nickel?? If GM's going to spend so much time on their flagship... why not do it right in the first place and actually make it competitive? Why not make it look like it is actually worth and deserves to be $85,000!!
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
Well, it looks like the XLR is getting discontinued anyway, so not like any of this is relevant.
Further proof GM can't manage its business. They spent GOD-KNOWS how much money on the utterly POINTLESS ZL-1 model, while the XLR, the flagship of the Cadillac brand languishes? |
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
My question is why did they even bother with the cut and sew upper dash?? That is really the only change from the current car I am seeing. They may as well have left the interior untouched.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
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keep them current. Case in point, why did the Camaro go away in 2002? GM didn't invest money to keep it relevant. It was hopelessly outdated and had to be put out of it's misery. Sadly, the XLR looks like it's headed for the same fate.
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3.9 Liter V6
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
Yes yes yes no no no
![]() I agree with everybody. ![]() hope this is just some sort of ....test mule. yes, i hope. yes it looks good, the design is close to perfect, although i would change a thing or two on the front, but hey. Too much chrome on the lip, looks a bit AUDI!!!! The same theme!!! (two grilles - one accentuated and the other its just there) dont like the round lights down either. overall it doesnt fit. the chrome around just makes it even cheaper. but yes, the car looks great. not astounding, but good. always loved the XLR! no, not for that price, not in the league of SL and XK, not with this interior, not with this exterior, no, no no!!! flagship? halo model? gotta be kidding. i mean just look at the SL, look at the XK, look at the SC. the fonts could also look more luxurious,stylish - i dunno, look at Bulgari or something. and what about those jagish side vents? and if this the final model, than its obvious GM is going to kill it. how much did this facelift cost? a few hundred bucks? not even sure it is a facelift. well not a proper one anyway. and XLR should be like a jewel in the sun. this supposed to be the best of the best, the standard of the world! afterall its a Cadillac! i hope i didnt hurt anyones feelings, i love Cadillac, i am only being constructive here.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
I actually like the updated exterior better, but because of the interior I would never pay sticker. I'll wait a year and get a 20k discount on this model.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
I think these photos are of last year's interior. The online order guide says this about the new interior, which doesn't agree with the photo:
New XLR Platinum interior combinations: Cashmere with Natural Olive Ash Burl wood appointments and Quartz metal accents; Ebony/Cashmere two-tone with Natural Olive Ash Burl wood appointments and Quartz metal accents (Cashmere in door and seat inserts); Ebony with Natural Olive Ash Burl wood appointments and Quartz metal accents The wood in the photo isn't olive ash burl, as seen here: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/person...h,%20olive.htm However, that is a different steering wheel from the 2008 model. Don't ask me what Quartz metal is. Last edited by ral1960 : 05-16-2008 at 02:49 AM. |
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
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XLR-V and Platinum has had it. It's essentially just cosmetic. XLR is and will remain outclassed. It's over.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
some of You are right, that interior is dated. But dated doesn't necessary mean bad. Audis interiors have been dated for long and there's still A8 which is dated interior and is still one of the best on the market. Don't set the SL interior as a benchmark. I know an owner of a 4-year old one and I must say the build quality is dissapointing (cracked stiches and leather on the dash, cracked inside mirror cover, some rattles). In my opinion the XLR interior is in the middle of the pack beating Lexus SC interior but nowhere near the new Jaguars interiors. Overall XLR keeps on being a good deal as long as it is less expensive than SL.
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Re: Cadillac XLR spied again (with interior shots)
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