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    Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved
    Will Cadillac get a proper flagship someday?
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    July 12, 2011
    By: Nick Saporito


    Several months ago media outlets began reporting that General Motors was in the process of developing a rear-wheel drive Cadillac flagship sedan off of a new platform. At the time, GMI reported that the program did exist, but had not been given the full green light. That, however, has since changed.

    According to sources familiar with GM product planning, the company fully approved the development of the Cadillac flagship sedan within the last couple of weeks. The program was supposedly working off of a goodwill commitment from the GM board of directors until the final approval recently became a reality.

    The ultra Cadillac sedan will indeed ride on a new rear wheel drive program, which is reportedly referred to as Omega internally. Expect the new platform to feature extensive use of lightweight materials, including aluminum. Contrary to prior reports, GM North America has the lead development role on the new Cadillac, not GM China.

    Omega is expected to be a spin-off of the Zeta architecture.

    GMI has received mixed signals from sources regarding when the new Cadillac will launch. Sources have stated anywhere between 2015 and 2017, which could suggest the car will replace the upcoming Cadillac XTS, which has been strongly suggested as a stop-gap product until the “proper” flagship is ready. In fact, GMI has been told several times that new GM management is not fond of the XTS.

    It is too early to determine the specifics of the car, though sources have stated that the car will likely make use of GM’s upcoming Generation V Small Block V-8. A full hybrid model is also under consideration.

    What remains to be seen is if Omega turns into another Zeta-like saga of on-again, off-again program changes that never see production. We’re hoping that does not turn out to be the case.
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Fantastic news! It is about time!
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    I'm a little worried when it says GM exects are not fond of the XTS. Does this mean they know it will be a failure and it's still in prototype phase?
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    Should make a lot of folks happy.

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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn99 View Post
    I'm a little worried when it says GM exects are not fond of the XTS. Does this mean they know it will be a failure and it's still in prototype phase?
    I think it means that they would not have opted to produce the car versus the originally planned RWD flagship.
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    Nice!
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn99 View Post
    I'm a little worried when it says GM exects are not fond of the XTS. Does this mean they know it will be a failure and it's still in prototype phase?
    I'm guessing they realize it will not be the "World Standard" Cadillacs are meant to be. Our hope is that it is a short lived product with the rear wheel drive replacement coming soon.

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    Excellent news for Cadillac. The new platform thing scares me a bit. Costs will be high.
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Quote Originally Posted by nsap View Post
    Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved
    Will Cadillac get a proper flagship someday?
    www.GMInsideNews.com
    July 12, 2011
    By: Nick Saporito


    Several months ago media outlets began reporting that General Motors was in the process of developing a rear-wheel drive Cadillac flagship sedan off of a new platform. At the time, GMI reported that the program did exist, but had not been given the full green light. That, however, has since changed.

    According to sources familiar with GM product planning, the company fully approved the development of the Cadillac flagship sedan within the last couple of weeks. The program was supposedly working off of a goodwill commitment from the GM board of directors until the final approval recently became a reality.

    The ultra Cadillac sedan will indeed ride on a new rear wheel drive program, which is reportedly referred to as Omega internally. Expect the new platform to feature extensive use of lightweight materials, including aluminum. Contrary to prior reports, GM North America has the lead development role on the new Cadillac, not GM China.

    Omega is expected to be a spin-off of the Zeta architecture.

    GMI has received mixed signals from sources regarding when the new Cadillac will launch. Sources have stated anywhere between 2015 and 2017, which could suggest the car will replace the upcoming Cadillac XTS, which has been strongly suggested as a stop-gap product until the “proper” flagship is ready. In fact, GMI has been told several times that new GM management is not fond of the XTS.

    It is too early to determine the specifics of the car, though sources have stated that the car will likely make use of GM’s upcoming Generation V Small Block V-8. A full hybrid model is also under consideration.

    What remains to be seen is if Omega turns into another Zeta-like saga of on-again, off-again program changes that never see production. We’re hoping that does not turn out to be the case.
    RWD and an OHV V8? It hardly seems to be an "Uber anything" today, never mind 2017... By then, all the German brands will have folowed Audi into AWD, active supension, all-alloy,DI, V6TT and hybridization. Who will want a 1960s era, updated Fleetwood, ARK??

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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    I think it is too soon to claim victory, 15'-17' is still far away. By then Lincoln and Hyundai may have a full line of luxury cars developed while the folks over at GM continue to debate over whether a proper flagship is necessary for Cadillac to compete on the world class stage of highfalutin uber luxury cars. Even if approved it still wont be Cadillac's panacea if not well executed based upon tomorrow's standards of luxury refinement. I hate to be the devil's advocate but the General has been notorious for being reactive rather than proactive when it comes designing, engeenering, and/or developing new product.
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Quote Originally Posted by nsap View Post
    I think it means that they would not have opted to produce the car versus the originally planned RWD flagship.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn99 View Post
    I'm a little worried when it says GM exects are not fond of the XTS. Does this mean they know it will be a failure and it's still in prototype phase?
    XTS was decided upon when GM had no money. I thought...


    I am glad the lead is North America.

    Nick, I thought you said, GM North America could not work with Zeta because it would make the platform too heavy and expensive? What was the tale between Zeta and GM North America?

    This is great news!! As always GMi is the place to get GM news

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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Fantastic news! I love Real Cadillac almost as much as I love Real Chevrolet... Almost.

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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Sorry FWD haters. I think the XTS looks great - a quantum leap beyond the DTS. Good news on the RWD flagship though - Cadillac needs to build it before using any more 'Standard of the World' type of slogans.
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Quote Originally Posted by nsap View Post
    I think it means that they would not have opted to produce the car versus the originally planned RWD flagship.
    I like the XTS, its a good replacement for those 2 dated vehicles (STS & DTS) and then having a top of the line deal being the RWD car they are talking about. If they have it go CTS then up to the big RWD sedan its going to leave a rather big hole i'd feel but idk what they'd be thinking with it all. Keep XTS is my vote.
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    Re: Cadillac Flagship Sedan Approved

    Light weight ZETA makes this a double dose of good news. Now where is Bob Lutz when we need him to confirm this project?

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