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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
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Besides there are so many things wrong with the information in this article it isn't even funny.
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3.9 Liter V6
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
Personally, I hope its AWD. With the forced induction we already know it will have (read flat torque curve) it could very easily run down Nissan's hotrod. All GM needs to do is turn up the boost...and something about cut slicks...and test it on a wet day...
Also, none of this purist crap - AWD is a fantastic setup for this car. The driver is looking for a very powerful, luxury car, probably using it as a daily driver. AWD is just easier with this kind of power. It might lose a 1/10 of a second, but this type of buyer isn't looking to light up the tires, powerslide on a city street in rush hour, or get stuck when the white stuff falls.
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6.0 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
I agree with an AWD CTS-V. But why is everyone against a AWD Vette'. the Vette' is the same case as the CTS-V.. it needs to get all that power to the ground.. ??
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
If you can't justify the volume for AWD then why send units there. If you only sell 1000 CTS's a year in GB and 10% are AWD, and lets say there are only 20 dealerships, then each dealership can only sell 5 per year, or one every 2.5 months. Thus it makes no sense to put that into dealer showrooms; plus it doesn't snow much in GB.
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
Nice that the CTS-V getting AWD, but more power wouldn't hurt though 500 HP is nothing to sneeze at. They have a point about RHD CTS-V, they aren't going to sell many in Europe so why waste the money?
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Join Date: May 2003
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
Wait does that mean regular CTS's are left hand drive only? Really how are they expecting Cadillac to be a player in the world when not pleasing a significant proportion of it? If the sigma wont be rhd than the CTS, STS (replacement), and SRX (if there will still be one) wont be very popular in the UK, India, Australia, South Africa....
I really hope it's not AWD. BMW and Mercedes don't need 4x4's neither do real men (or women).
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5.3 Liter LS4 V8
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
Oh jeez here we go again, basing ones manhood on what they drive. Pointless and immature. People crap on AWD when they don't even live in a climate where they need it.
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
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The Vette is a little different. It's a true sportscar, and those few situations I spoke of, they apply. The CTS-V is a luxury car first, performancre second.
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
400? You might want to rethink that.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no UK visa?
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
I think he meant in the UK...
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
I woul thhnk there are people who woul want just a RWD version, but I wonder if the rearend could take that power. I also wonder how long clutches are going to last in the AWD version
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5.3 Liter Vortec V8
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Colorado, USA
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Re: Cadillac CTS-V gets 4WD, but no RHD version?
For every million US$ spent on making a RHD version it equals US$5000 per vehicle assuming 200 units (not like the Caddy's are flying off the lots in the UK).
A weaker US$ means that it is easier to recoup the money spent, but given current sales Cadillac can only look at this invest as a loss making one. If they release it and it is a hit then that great, but right now with such few sales of regular cars.... Cadillac should release the new CTS in the UK in RHD, if it does sell well, and we are talking at least 1000 unitsd a year, then they can go and release a RHD V series as a mid life upgrade. One problem i do see for the CTS-V Australia is pretty well covered through HSV and so is Vauxhal with their imoerted HSVs. And when it comes down to it, HSV could send the Senator over to the UK with next to no development cost and provide a luxury model. I would love to see the CTS-V in every country and all that, but being realistic, it is far from a practical use of money.
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