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Old 02-07-2008, 12:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cadillac CTS & Holden Commodore: What's The Difference?

Cadillac CTS To Gun For Euro Brigade

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Yes, it's a medium-large rear-wheel-drive V6, but the CTS won't be squaring up against the Commodore...it's aimed at the Teutons.

Cadillac's entry to the Australian market in the last quarter of this year via the chiselled new CTS sedan will be under intense scrutiny by industry watchers.

Some pundits have questioned the wisdom of launching a car that, as a pure physical entity, closely mirrors its locally built GM stablemate, the VE Commodore.

Both derive propulsion (in base-model form) from 3.6-litre V6 engines, they're both rear-wheel drive (although the Caddy can be had in all-paw guise) and they're very similar in length, width, height and wheelbase (see comparative table below). Heck, they're not too far apart (depending on spec levels) in poundage either.

So where's the logic in introducing a US-built car that, for all intents and purposes, could be substituted by a local one?

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Old 02-07-2008, 12:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Cadillac>>>>Holden, all day every day, twice on sunday (sell on monday)

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Cadillac>>>>Holden, all day every day, twice on sunday (sell on monday)

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Interesting turn of phrase you use, which is of course derived from "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday".

Of course that's what Holden has done often and still does, win car races.

Has Cadillac ever actually won a car race?



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Sit in the front and rear seats of the Commodore. Now sit in the front and rear seats of the CTS. You have your answer.

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The cadi is ugly sorry to say.
And the Commodore is probably built better.
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Wow, you can really see how much more modern the CTS is in exterior design...And the interior is also much better. Sorry, but I think the writer is a little bit worried the "homegrown"/ GM subsidary might be outshined by the new American entry.
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Wow, you can really see how much more modern the CTS is in exterior design...And the interior is also much better. Sorry, but I think the writer is a little bit worried the "homegrown"/ GM subsidary might be outshined by the new American entry.
It'd want to outshine the local, it is the flagship and attracting a premium.
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I think Aussies will like the CTS. The premium is because it is imported and Cadillac must be the premium class. The Holden is nice too...Definitely not against Holden cars...It will be nice for Aussies to have both models to choose from.
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awful article. i don't care how they're positioned. i want to know more about how similar their platforms etc are! i really don't care how close they are in size, i can look that stuff up. tell me how similar their suspension set-ups are and which has the advantage.

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awful article. i don't care how they're positioned. i want to know more about how similar their platforms etc are! i really don't care how close they are in size, i can look that stuff up. tell me how similar their suspension set-ups are and which has the advantage.

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Exactly. Size does not determine characteristics, necessarily..."Hey, it is the same size!" So?
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The cadi is ugly sorry to say.
And the Commodore is probably built better.
are you serious? I guess you haven't heard about the Lansing plant, but Cadillac builds some of the best cars (objective, build quality, and with CTS materials quality, etc. in the under 100,000$ segment) in the world. Can you spell F-A-N-B-O-Y-O-F-H-O-L-D-E-N?

That was probably the second most ignorant post I've read all day, the first being someone talking about "RL and style" in the same sentence

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Sit in the front and rear seats of the Commodore. Now sit in the front and rear seats of the CTS. You have your answer.
The seats look pretty OK to me. Very VW style of class. I bet the Caddy has wood everywhere.....





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[quote=CobaltSScrazy;1310919]are you serious? I guess you haven't heard about the Lansing plant, but Cadillac builds some of the best cars (objective, build quality, and with CTS materials quality, etc. in the under 100,000$ segment) in the world. Can you spell F-A-N-B-O-Y-O-F-H-O-L-D-E-N?

That was probably the second most ignorant post I've read all day, the first being someone talking about "RL and style" in the same sentence

How can we take a cobalt fanboy seriously though lol?

Ive heard of American quality, or lack of.
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Exactly. Size does not determine characteristics, necessarily..."Hey, it is the same size!" So?
under that premise, a good comparison would be...

commodore = hyundai azera

cadillac = 7 series

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or better yet, a better title for this thread SHOULD be...

Cadillac CTS & Pontiac G8: Whats the Difference?

I would infer VERY VERY VERY few people would purchase a G8 over a CTS, only if they want a slightly larger car for a lower price/styling preferance. This applies in the USA obviously, but you could extrapolate and apply it in Oz too!
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