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Of course it does! They always lose sleekness and smoothness and drama getting into production. Guaranteed. But that said, the concept, from the considerable amount we can see, is quite dramatic for a production car. The depth of the falling line along the said is pretty high amplitude for a production car. And the tumblehome in the greenhouse is pretty dramatic, too, for a production car. I think the final car will indeed look pretty dramatic compared to the run of the mill on the road today.
donmateo (11-20-2012)
Typical, a video about a GM car that starts with a Mercedes Ad!
Now movie stars will be able to go back to driving flash cars to public events...
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I agree. Cadillac needs this car but not at this stage. Along with the flagship, Cadillac really needs a RWD CUV to replace that accident called the SRX. They also really need a great customer experience just as good or better than Lexus.
This really should be a no brainer.
Last edited by nruggiero; 11-20-2012 at 04:11 PM.
Then at what stage? A "Flagship" is certainly nice, but an advanced car like the ELR is going to garner far more attention.
Hilarious. Cadillac went from near-last with the 2004-2009 version, to second best seller in the segment with the lastest SRX and you call it an "accident".Along with the flagship, Cadillac really needs a RWD CUV to replace that accident called the SRX.
A car like the ELR is what you do when your brand is successful and prominent. Cadillac is not there yet. We'll see how well the ELR does.
True. But what about Cadillac's image in the luxury market around that time? I remember you could $8,000 off those things. They were simply cheap and unsophisticated.
No. What you are referring to is whether or not Voltec has been completely paid for, which it hasn't. But like every other car, that cost is amortized. On an individual vehicle basis, the Volts are making GM money. Once they reach the sales volumes required when they were planning the amortization schedule, then voltec as a whole will be considered a money maker. Clear or did I muck that explanation up too much?
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I hope Cadillac keeps the styling dramatic, edgy and chiseled, with plenty of "V" shape to the rear deck lid! The door mirrors look the same as the Chevy Volt's in that video--hopefully there will be subtle details throughout the car to further differentiate it from the Volt.
Correct this is supposed to be the Voltec 1.5 powertrain. Voltec 2.0 will debut with the new D2 platform.
If I had to guess the biggest changes will be that Voltec 1.5 will use the same electric motor as the Spark EV. This electric motor can put down 400ft-lbs of torque and will be held back in the Spark. But I think GM will unleash the motor in the ELR with a different gear ratio to unlock more power out of the motor.
Base on what I have seen the range extender in the ELR is going to be a naturally asperated 2.0L Direct Injected 4 cylinder. A bigger engine provides little performance advantage in Voltec.
Well I think the ELR needs to also bring the ECO cred. I think the ELR needs an ECO mode for max EV range and fuel economy and a KICK ASS! mode (self explained). Easy to program into Voltec.
ne_one, I agree with you completely. GM is capable of developing different cars in different classes at the same time. And this car will absolutely help Cadillac's image as a leader in high-tech auto solutions. I'd consider buying an ELR, and I doubt I would ever purchase a large flagship (although I believe Cadillac should produce one).
Can't wait for the full on reveal. Considering where it will be priced it Voltec system should have had a Caddy version from the start.
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