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Rex Raider 04-11-2004 07:57 PM

Cadillac Escalade

Deletions

(KG3) 145 amp alternator

New Features

Exterior color 26U (WA-214M) Rip Tide Blue
(KW1) 160 amp alternator
Electric cooling fans

Changes

Redesigned, highly-detailed instrument panel gauges with chrome bezels
Walnut Burl wood trim replaces Zebrano wood trim
Touch screen capability now included with (UM8) Navigation system
Round chrome exhaust tip replaces oval tip
Eliminated encapsulation around lift gate glass
Driver Information Center is less complicated, more user friendly
Tire Pressure Monitor displays individual tire pressures in trip computer menu
Updated Fuel information and personalization icons
Modified buckle-up reminder system
Carpet on lower door trim
Refreshed appearance on interior door handles

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Cadillac DeVille

Deletions

Exterior color 54U (WA-534F) Cashmere
Rear door lock switches
Steering column locking feature
Spare tire trunk trim handle

New Features

Exterior color 15U (WA-929L) Light Cashmere (Available at start of production)
Exterior color 23U (WA-984L) Green Silk (Available shortly after start of production)

Changes

Generation VI Digital OnStar
OnStar phone icon replaces white dot
Click on the blue links to change image

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Cadillac CTS

Deletions

Exterior color (54U) Cashmere
(LA3) Engine, 3.2L DOHC V6
(PDP) Luxury Performance Package
OnStar glass-mounted external antenna

New Features

Exterior color 46U (WA-928L) Stealth Gray
Exterior color 61U (WA-918L) Sand Storm
Exterior color 62U (WA805K) Moonstone
(MV1) Transmission, 6-speed manual, AISIN
(LP1) Engine, 2.8L DOHC V6. Available with automatic or manual transmission. (Available 4th quarter 2004)
Integrated roof-mounted OnStar and XM antenna (ISARS)
1SA Equipment Group will be available for 2.8L engine. (Available 4th quarter 2004)
Synthetic leather in Ebony or Light Gray. Available on 1SA with 2.8L engine only (Available October, 2004)
New B19 Wood Trim Package will offer Burl trim on shifter trim plate, center stack and door handles. Wood on Steering wheel and shifter knob. Available on 1SA with (PDL) Luxury Package and 1SB with (PDL) option. (Available October, 2004)

Changes

1SB becomes base Equipment Group
(PDL) Luxury Package and its contents become Available rather than Standard
(PF4) and (PX0) 16" Wheels will retain their RPO codes, but will be new design

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Cadillac CTS-V

New Features

Exterior Color 29U (WA-964L) Red Line. Red Line available at extra cost
Exterior Color 46U (WA-928L) Stealth Gray
One new interior color: 133 Light Gray

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Cadillac Escalade ESV

Deletions

(KG3) 145 amp allternator

New Features

Exterior color 26U (WA-214M) Rip Tide Blue
(KW1) 160 amp alternator
Electric cooling fans

Changes

Round chrome exhaust tip replaces oval tip
Eliminated encapsulation around lift gate glass
Driver Information Center is less complicated, more user friendly
Tire Pressure Monitor displays individual tire pressures in trip computer menu
Updated fuel information and personalization icons
Modified buckle-up reminder system
Carpet on lower door trim
Refreshed appearance on interior door handles
Redesigned, highly detailed instrument panel gauges with chrome bezels
Walnut Burl trim replaced Zebrano wood trim
Touch screen capability now included with Navigation system

Deletions

Exterior color 91U (WA-815K) Out Of The Blue

New Features

Exterior color 26U (WA-214M) Rip Tide Blue
Sliding load floor for cargo bed (Bedslide)
Electric cooling fans

Changes

Redesigned, highly detailed instrument panel gauges with chrome bezels
Walnut Burl trim replaces Zebrano wood trim
Touch screen capability new included with Navigation system
Round chrome exhaust tip replaces oval tip
Driver Information Center is less complicated, more user friendly
Tire Pressure Monitor displays individual tire pressure in trip computer menu
Fuel information and personalization icons
Modified buckle-up reminder system
Carpet on lower door trim
Refreshed appearance on interior door handles
Click on the blue links to change image


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Cadillac SRX

Deletions

Exterior color 54U (WA-534F) Cashmere

New Features

Exterior color 61U (WA918L) Sand Storm

Changes

(FE3) Suspension, Magnetic Ride Control available on RWD
(U2V) Navigation will be available on 1SB

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Deletions

Exterior color 88U (WA-812K) Thunder Gray
Japanese removed as language option in Driver Information Center
Italian and Japanese removed as language options on (UV6) Head-Up Display

Japanese removed? I wonder why.... ;-)

New Features

Exterior color 34U (WA-937L) Blue Steel
Two choices of Eucalyptus wood interior trim available: New - Dark Eucalyptus Wood and Carryover - Light Eucalyptus Wood

johnd89 04-11-2004 09:09 PM

a 2.8 instead of the 3.2 for the cts???? What is wrong with them?
if it's not s/c they have no excuse: even with the manual tranny, given the size/weight of the cts, it will be slow as hell... what a waste! :angry:
heard that n/a it will be good for 205-210hp, with no low end torque: like a cheapo *** :(

Jabroni 04-11-2004 09:14 PM

so, when are we going to see pics of the Escalade's interior?

TaHoE 04-11-2004 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnd89@Apr 11 2004, 08:09 PM
a 2.8 instead of the 3.2 for the cts???? What is wrong with them?
if it's not s/c they have no excuse: even with the manual tranny, given the size/weight of the cts, it will be slow as hell... what a waste! :angry:
heard that n/a it will be good for 205-210hp, with no low end torque: like a cheapo *** :(

The 2.8L is to attract Europeans to the CTS. I think its a great plan. The 3.2L is too close to the 3.6 so add some choices. The 2.8L produces around 200HP and should prove to be very efficient.

johnd89 04-11-2004 09:47 PM

I hope it will be worthy (sell well), hell, even bmw had a puny 4 banger 1.8 in their 5 series in Europe :unsure:
now they have a 2.2 I6 good for 170 lousy hp on their 5 :lol:

jro4566 04-11-2004 11:31 PM

Man I am so excited for the Escalade's new interior! GM better not let me down! BTW, what's new with the Generation IV OnStar?

Smilingoat 04-11-2004 11:35 PM

do we have to wait until detroit to see the new escalade? and is there going to be an interior update for 05 and than a redesign for 06? is this mentioned just a change in wood or is this a completely new design?

so many questions :lol:

rodd62 04-11-2004 11:44 PM

this is what i found from cheers and gears...dont know how reliable it tho so im not taking any responsability for it...

(approx. target ratings for unreleased engines)
2.8 PFI LP1 205 hp
2.8 light turbo LP9 (Saab) 230 hp Jan 04
2.8 high turbo LP9 (Saab) 290 hp
3.2 PFI LU1 225 hp June 04
3.2 light turbo (Saab) 250 hp
3.2 high turbo (Saab) 320 hp 360 lb-ft
3.8 (Holden) 250 hp 262 lb-ft (less power, more torque than LY7 3.6)

GM has previously stated that the HFV6 can be reliably boosted to 370 hp (probably in the 3.2-l turbo).

hope that helps and make every one happy. i like those saab engines...

johnd89 04-12-2004 12:16 AM

I don't have a problem with the power rating of the 2.8 n/a. What bothers me is the torque delivery, wich means that someone will have to rev it to the sky to take something out of it, wich isn't ok for a upscale brand like caddy, but works on accord/camry junkers.
Either way, if this will boost sales especialy in europe, good for them!
I also believe it will atract people who want an economical car...

talking about what the client wants:
"I'd like a cadillac big and powerfull as the sixteen concept but economical as a prius, all for under 20k??"

jro4566 04-12-2004 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnd89@Apr 11 2004, 10:16 PM
I don't have a problem with the power rating of the 2.8 n/a. What bothers me is the torque delivery, wich means that someone will have to rev it to the sky to take something out of it, wich isn't ok for a upscale brand like caddy, but works on accord/camry junkers.
Either way, if this will boost sales especialy in europe, good for them!
I also believe it will atract people who want an economical car...

talking about what the client wants:
"I'd like a cadillac big and powerfull as the sixteen concept but economical as a prius, all for under 20k??"

I think revving an engine is fun, as long as it's not around 9,000 RPM like some Hondas. If it's midrange RPM, then it's much more fun than having low-end torque. I honestly don't find it very fun driving with the RPM pointer at "2" all day long. Then again, I'm a driving kinda guy. :lol:

alias 04-12-2004 12:23 AM

I thought Caddy was going to redesign the Deville for '05. What's up? Did they just put it off until later?

Chops 04-12-2004 01:21 AM

It's a sports sedan. They're naturally supposed to be revvy. Revving is a part of driving... not cruising around town with your million pound feet at 230 rpms or some such crap. It's not like it's going to have 150 lb/ft at 6000 rpms.

Quit bitching and use your noggin. Sheesh :rolleyes:

mgescuro 04-12-2004 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alias@Apr 11 2004, 11:23 PM
I thought Caddy was going to redesign the Deville for '05. What's up? Did they just put it off until later?
STS is the '05 model. DTS will be introduced in '05 for production in '06.

BigAls87Z28 04-12-2004 01:04 PM

The 3.2 is left over from the Catera years. GOOOD BYE! The 2.8 is fine. Id still like to see the 3.6 make more power. 265 in the CTS, 275 in the STS and SRX.
Is the Lade getting a total redesign inside?

peccles 04-12-2004 01:09 PM

Still no magnetic ride control even as an option for the CTS :angry:

Jabroni 04-12-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peccles@Apr 12 2004, 05:09 PM
CTS continues to be the only Caddy without Magnetic Ride Control as even
an option.

That would add ever more money to the CTS sticker, its just too expensive. the Escalade doesnt have Magnetic Ride Control

johnd89 04-12-2004 02:32 PM

Well, everyone is entitled to their oppinion, I'd never consider a 2.8 for a car this size...

jro4566 04-12-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnd89@Apr 12 2004, 12:32 PM
Well, everyone is entitled to their oppinion, I'd never consider a 2.8 for a car this size...
Me too.

Carguy 04-12-2004 03:24 PM

The 2.8L V6 CTS is there to compete with both the BMW 325i in price and the 525i in size. And beeing both of those cars sell with there BASE engines VERY WELL around the world this move makes sence. The 525i starts around 40K and sells good with only 178 or so HP so the 200+ HP CTS 2.8L should be fine.

patscircus 04-12-2004 05:57 PM

I sell caddys for a living. The cts needes heated seats standard and a sunroof optional. Most people don't care about the rest. :D

jro4566 04-12-2004 06:04 PM

I think the CTS should've gotten an interior like the XLR, which is probably the most gorgeous Cadillac interior right now. Just a small problem though...

patscircus 04-12-2004 06:25 PM

XLR , too high priced. I would get a new vette first.

AMcA 04-12-2004 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnd89@Apr 12 2004, 01:47 AM
I hope it will be worthy (sell well), hell, even bmw had a puny 4 banger 1.8 in their 5 series in Europe :unsure:
now they have a 2.2 I6 good for 170 lousy hp on their 5 :lol:

One thing they haven't made clear: can we get a 6-speed on the 3.6L model?

We couldn't before, but they made noises that maybe it would be coming. Can we hope?

BigAls87Z28 04-12-2004 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patscircus@Apr 12 2004, 10:25 PM
XLR , too high priced. I would get a new vette first.
too high priced? How did one come to such a conclusion?

People looking to buy a Vette want a Vette. People looking for an XLR want an XLR.

QueenSheba 04-13-2004 01:17 PM

Hey

When are the dealerships due to receive allocation for the STS? I want to place my order already!!!!

:bounce:


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