Now that we know the size and mass of Alpha....

[Z284ever]

Should Chevy spend any time on developing a 5th gen Z/28, or just get focused on a better 6th gen Alpha Z/28?

[Z284ever]

Personally, I don't mind waiting for a 1/4 ton lighter Z/28......

[FenwickHockey65]

I'd wait.

[CaptainDan]

This is silly.

If you vote to wait for the next "good" thing, you'll be waiting forever. There is always (at least the possibility of) something better just over the horizon. At what point do you stop waiting? Should we have just skipped the current generation of Camaros completely because a possibly better version was in the future? Or should they all have been built with just sixes, because a new generation small block is just around the corner?

Z28 name doesn't even mean anything. It can (and has been) slapped on whatever GM wants, regardless of it's actual potential.

[big swede]

Too late for a Z28 now. Wait for the 6th gen and do it right, but also keep the ZL1 in the portfolio

[Z284ever]

This is silly.

If you vote to wait for the next "good" thing, you'll be waiting forever. There is always (at least the possibility of) something better just over the horizon. At what point do you stop waiting? Should we have just skipped the current generation of Camaros completely because a possibly better version was in the future? Or should they all have been built with just sixes, because a new generation small block is just around the corner?

Z28 name doesn't even mean anything. It can (and has been) slapped on whatever GM wants, regardless of it's actual potential.

No arguments about GM bungling the rich heritage of the Z/28 brand in the past. But they are a little bit more focused regarding things like that now. Or at least you'd hope so. The Boss Mustang certainly was a wake up call for GM.

The point here is not continuously waiting for something better, it's IF the Zeta architecture can even deliver a "proper" Z/28. The other thing is when. The ZL1 isn't even out yet, (which up until shortly before it's reveal was to be called the Z/28), so when do you develop and release a 5th gen Z/28? The 5th gen's final year?

[IZ28]

Waiting would be stupid. The Mustang guys get a Boss-type of car (or should I say a Z28-type of car) and we just don't?! Come on now, we invented that kind of car! Their Boss Mustang was based on our Camaro Z/28. No one knows what's gonna happen in the future, gas could be $8 a gallon when the 6th Gen comes out. Do what you can while you can. The ZL1 looks to be a good handler and the N/A Z28 would be lighter. So I vote to make one for this Gen and the next. If it could get out late this year or early next year it would be great.

[Z284ever]

Waiting would be stupid. The Mustang guys get a Boss-type of car (or should I say a Z28-type of car) and we just don't?! Come on now, we invented that kind of car! Their Boss Mustang was based on the Camaro Z/28. No one knows what's gonna happen in the future, gas could be $8 a gallon when the 6th Gen comes out. Do what you can while you can. The ZL1 looks to be a good handler and the N/A Z28 would be lighter. So I vote to make one for this Gen and the next. If it could get out late this year or early next year it would be great.

Well....

Lemme ask you. If you were in the market for a Z/28, would you whip out your checkbook for one, if you knew a better one, which is 300-500 pounds lighter, with a better suspension, more power and better everything else, was 18-24 months away?

[ledfoot73]

Of course it just made no sense to produce the 67-69 Z28 when the next gen LT1 models were so much better. Better handling, more torque and hp which made it not only faster but much more tractable. They should have never made the peaky, torque less 67-9 models. For that matter, why would anyone ever have bought a 67 Vette when the 68 made so many improvements over the mid year models. You just couldn't get enough rubber underneath the fenders of the mid year cars to get the power to the ground. The reason a Z28 would be great on the current platform is that this model is the best performing Camaro ever made and it needs to respond to the competition coming from
the Boss. It would also be great to see a current model race prepped Z28 competing with the Boss 302 in events like the Continental tire series, Now! I don't know what GM has lined out with the Alpha platform yet, but I thought they were having problems getting the weight down and had already scrapped the multilink rear suspension. Do we really know that the specs for the gen 6 are set in stone and not subject to change or hype? We do know that the current car can lay down some pretty awesome performance, and it's potential is a known entity. Remember an 05-09 Mustang gt and the Gt500 didn't really lay down great skid pad or track numbers stock, but now look what they've done with it. I would really like to see what GM's performance engineer's could do with the current gen 5's platform if they were allowed to attempt a Z28.

[IZ28]

Well....

Lemme ask you. If you were in the market for a Z/28, would you whip out your checkbook for one, if you knew a better one, which is 300-500 pounds lighter, with a better suspension, more power and better everything else, was 18-24 months away?

It depends Charlie. First, I'd have to know that car was coming, which most of the buying public probably wouldn't. Second, there is a chance that I wouldn't like the looks of the 6th Gen and that right there would be enough for me to buy the heavier car. Third, these are not particularly cheap cars and aren't really bought by those without adequate funds. Many would buy a Z28 now and trade up for a new one in a few years anyway. Fourth, there is still 3 entire years until MY 16 cars come out, 3 more years without a Z28 in the Camaro brand is insanity IMO. Fifth and last, if I was GM, I'd give customers as many relevant versions (aka real models and not sticker packages) of this car that I could and do them right. The car has proven to be a success without even besting it's competition in performance. People will buy them without question. There is a business case and money to be made.

[ledfoot73]

+1 to that. 3 years is just to long to wait. The performance picture is just to murky at this point and subject to change. Plus you are absolutely right, what if you don't like the look or the size?

[IZ28]

Lets also be honest here. It's not everyday that a car company has a certified hit, it's a rare thing. Something that sells, makes the company money, and has a good image. You only need to remember how fast the Camaro world changed when GM went from the success of the 3rd Gens to the failure of the 4th Gens. It was almost immediate and they far outperformed their competition. It can happen again, there is no time to waste. If I was on the Camaro Team, I'd be scrambling to get a best-as-possible Z28 on the streets while I still could.

[avro206]

Wait and do it right. Camaros are out selling Mustangs anyhow--just sit back and wait. And no---I still say a 4 cylinder Camaro is not a good idea!

[BustedCrank]

We hear all too often that Gm takes too long to respond/ get a car out there...Now everyone seems to be telling them to wait...

Build one now, that's three more years of unanswered whoopass the boss has on the camaro...again

GM has parts in the parts bin that will make a well equipped Camaro that will beat the boss on the track.

Why not build it? I see no reason

[avro206]

what's your proposal ?