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Old 07-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Responds

There are 13,100 Saturn Astra units in inventory*.

That equates to a 353 day supply using June sales figures as a indicator.

With that in mind, it seems that GM Vice Chairman Robert Lutz has a plan.

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*Source: Automotive News; Figure as of July 1, 2008
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

On a more serious note:

GM purposely leaks photographs of the 2011 Chevy Cruze but at the same time can't figure out how to sell one of the best vehicles they CURRENTLY offer for sale.

How does this CONTINUE to be possible six months after the on-sale date?
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

They apparently though the hatch crowd was much bigger than it actually is. Should have imported the sedan from Poland as well.

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Old 07-18-2008, 08:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

IF no one knows about the Astra... why would they buy it???

Even better question... How much would it cost to take a coupla thousand of these and put a Turbo 2.0L in it, or modify a coupla more thousand to have the XFE's sweets?


Those are the questions that that make me crazy
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

I have seen absolutely zero advertising for the Astra. Consequently I have seen but one Astra (just yesterday) since it's release, and I cover a relatively large area on a weekly basis (Riverside and Orange Counties). Has the marketing for the Astra been largely internet based? I spend I decent amount of time on the web and have seen very little there as well. I was under the impression that GM was pretty excited about this car and considered it very important (and it certainly is). It's gotten good reviews and is a solid offering in a vital market segment. WHY DOESN'T GM ADVERTISE THE CAR?
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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zero advertising, decontented options, no sedan or two door coupe options, a dog slow engine, no REDLINE version and the kicker - NO CHANGES for '09

WTF did GM expect to happen? A sales miracle?

I mean this vehicle was doomed to fail right out the gate
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

I'm sure lack of advertising is one issue. I know I personally wouldn't buy one for the following reason, and I was looking forward to it being available before it actually arrived. My expectations were that GM was finally going to offer us a truly fuel efficient compact that could compete with the 1.8L models from Honda and Toyota. Instead we get a 1.8L engine in a compact that uses just as much fuel as the 2.2L in the Cobalt and that is before GM came out with the XFE model Cobalt. Many people have fuel economy as a priority right now and this car does NOT deliver. In many ways it is a nicer car than the Cobalt but many shop small cars because they are either cheap or fuel efficient or both. The Astra is neither. It is expensive and has below average fuel efficiency (especially for the engine size and power). It really disappointed me. I'd much rather buy a Cobalt XFE now since my main reason for buying a compact will be lower costs of ownership.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

Just one more reason why Saturn should go.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

I have seen more of them around lately but that said, if they had an Astra sedan I think they would sell much better. My friend who has a SL2 traded it in for a Focus because she didn't want a hatchback.

Saw in the paper they have them slapped with 0% for 72 months + $500 gas card here in Ontario. Great deal. Won't get that on a VW.

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I'm sure that the number of dealers, lack of lease option, lack of options all together and lack of marketing all contribute to the lack of sales.
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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

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Just one more reason why Saturn should go.
I disagree. Astra is not selling bcause of

1. Lack of any marketing
2. Lack of a sedan
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I wonder what kind of deals could be had on an Astra. Tempting.
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They've been running Astra commercials all week over here. They don't say anything about the car other than its name and that it gets 32mpg.

On an editorial note, the headline for this thread is completely misleading. Terrible.
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On a more serious note:

GM purposely leaks photographs of the 2011 Chevy Cruze but at the same time can't figure out how to sell one of the best vehicles they CURRENTLY offer for sale.

How does this CONTINUE to be possible six months after the on-sale date?
It's not that GM can't figure out how to sell......it's that the car won't sell itself because of the badge on its back. Same story with Aura versus Malibu......Outlook vs Acadia/Enclave/Traverse. You cannot sell a Saturn the way the brand exists right now.

Do you think just by giving Suzuki or Mitsubishi awesome product, sales are going to jump through the roof? No. Consumer perception of these brands is very poor. Well guess what, as far as brand recognition (not even perception, just recognition) goes, Saturn is probably down there with Isuzu. People don't even know the company exists.

It'll take an IMMENSE amount of resources and $$ just to make consumers aware of the existence of the Saturn brand. Which is why some people like Elk and myself called this the stupidest, most wasteful and pointless idea GM ever came up with (i.e. taking Saturn upmarket)

It was never going to work. Some of us knew that a long time ago. But fanbois and GM management never could figure it out. Many of you still haven't even after it has been spelt out in plain English.

It is the BRAND, not the products, not the number of dealers, not the haggling etc.

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Re: Saturn Astra Inventory Close To One Year Supply; Vice Chairman Robert Lutz Respon

what is his plan?!
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