Review: Pontiac G8 GT vs Dodge Charger R/T

[marinerbc]

Originally Posted by 69Firebird400

Now, a Garmin-type system versus the factory system is a different argument. Garmin does nearly everything the factory system does (plus some things it won't do), but isn't integrated nicely into the interior design and could be a invitation to thieves. Plus, the factory system generally gives you stuff like a better trip computer, more radio/XM info, etc. on the display.

One of our vehicles has factory nav and one does not - I will definitely get it on my next car. It's not right for everyone, but it's nice to have the choice, especially in a $30,000 car, when you can get it in a stinking 2009 Corolla.

I respectfully disagree. There are ways to disguise a Garmin unit so that it is not easily seen from outside, because I do it every day. And the trip computer in the Garmin is every bit as good if not better than the factory unit. And for 2 grand, I can buy a lot better option package than factory nav, and still move the Garmin to Love_My_Grand_Am's car.

The Garmin is bluetooth, and makes my bluetooth cell phone hands free while in the car or near it. In addition to that, it currently holds a couple of THOUSAND MP3s that it plays through my car's audio system, while voicing its turn by turn instructions through same.

Factory nav has been left in the dust long ago.

[Pontiac or walk]

lets not forget that the G8 GT also kicked the BMW 5 series to the curb, in every category. Or that the G8 GXP also does the same to the dodge charger SRT8.... come on Pontiac, ditch the torrent, pick up the GTO and the TRANS-AM, and we're good to go... so all all I got to say about this, is hell yea!

[red_rider]

Originally Posted by marinerbc

I respectfully disagree. There are ways to disguise a Garmin unit so that it is not easily seen from outside, because I do it every day. And the trip computer in the Garmin is every bit as good if not better than the factory unit. And for 2 grand, I can buy a lot better option package than factory nav, and still move the Garmin to Love_My_Grand_Am's car.

The Garmin is bluetooth, and makes my bluetooth cell phone hands free while in the car or near it. In addition to that, it currently holds a couple of THOUSAND MP3s that it plays through my car's audio system, while voicing its turn by turn instructions through same.

Factory nav has been left in the dust long ago.

Impressive, especially the mp3 part. That kind of integration would convert me over instead of a factory unit.

[Stovebolt]

I hate Nav systems, and I love manual seats (and windows).

But I also love manual transmissions...

WHY GM WHY!???!?!?!?

[CATHOLICJACK]

Originally Posted by Stovebolt

I hate Nav systems, and I love manual seats (and windows).

But I also love manual transmissions...

WHY GM WHY!???!?!?!?

YOu do know that the GXP will have the 6 speed?

[Club327]

I'd buy the G8 f it had a sat nav, but also a TV, microwave, fridge and a sink! Seriously, if you like the car for its looks or performance then buy the friggin thing. SatNav? - who wants to be stuck with a unit that'll be old looking in 5 years time. I'm more than happy to buy the latest unit whenever I want - not be forced to use an obsolete unit that can't be changed or if needed. It would cost a week's wage to replace if it failed years later. The G8s are good cars going by the Commodores I've tested over here. The only things I should warn you about is that Holden has yet to get the electronics glich free, so expect the occasional intermitent fault or the need to have the car's operating software flash updated every now and then. Not good enough I know. I just think Holden tried too hard to be Hi Tech with the electronics, unlike Toyota or Mazda that keep to old fashioned but bullet proof systems.

[Buick61]

Originally Posted by Club327

I'd buy the G8 f it had a sat nav, but also a TV, microwave, fridge and a sink! Seriously, if you like the car for its looks or performance then buy the friggin thing. SatNav? - who wants to be stuck with a unit that'll be old looking in 5 years time.

The Charger does have Satellite TV...

And going by observation, many people want to be "stuck" with a factory navigation system. It's just another option that makes a car more attractive to people that need something more than, "It looks good," as a reason to purchase. I suppose you think automatic transmissions and CD players are superfluous, too.

Also, now the Charger R/T has more power than the G8 GT, which I guess is good for bragging rights.

[Club327]

Point taken Buick61. What I was trying to get across was that I'm surprised that people won't buy the car because it does not come with a sat nav. For me (and most car enthusiasts as well) Sat Nav is not a deal breaker. Deal breaker issues should be more the following to one's personal choices. Safety, performance, size, appearance, cost, running costs, economy, etc. To not buy a car due to the missing sat nav is very shallow and unforgivable. If you want it, then buy it. If not, stop whining.

[mrgto]

Originally Posted by CATHOLICJACK

YOu do know that the GXP will have the 6 speed?

Yes we all do. But $7K for Engine, Manual tranny and brakes?

[CATHOLICJACK]

Originally Posted by mrgto

Yes we all do. But $7K for Engine, Manual tranny and brakes?

That may be higher than it should be? But as it stands right now we do not have any released prices. Also if we compare the G8 GT with the options that would come standard on a G8 GT then I think the price will not be an additional $7k. But that is my opinion as well.

I am looking forward to the price release.

[TriShield]

Here we are sometime later and the G8 is a sales bomb. The Charger meanwhile is not.

There's no market for the car as a Pontiac and the GXP will not only cost substantially more than the GT, but probably more than the brand itself can command.

GTO part deux right here folks.

[mrgto]

Originally Posted by TriShield

Here we are sometime later and the G8 is a sales bomb. The Charger meanwhile is not.

There's no market for the car as a Pontiac and the GXP will not only cost substantially more than the GT, but probably more than the brand itself can command.

GTO part deux right here folks.

Please post R/T Sales vs G8 GT sales....

Please post Mid Level Charger Sales vs G8 sales....and oh, since March when the G8 first appeared at dealers. K, thanxbye.

[salbracht]

Originally Posted by mrgto

Please post R/T Sales vs G8 GT sales....

Please post Mid Level Charger Sales vs G8 sales....and oh, since March when the G8 first appeared at dealers. K, thanxbye.

Here is the G8 vs Charger comparison by the numbers :

Pontiac G8 is another flop for GM

[mrgto]

Originally Posted by salbracht

Here is the G8 vs Charger comparison by the numbers :

Pontiac G8 is another flop for GM

WHICH POST?

[salbracht]

Originally Posted by mrgto

WHICH POST?

The link should take you right to it. 54