Pontiac’s future lineup to focus small, front-wheel drive models

[SCCA1995]

Originally Posted by Eric77TA

But it's not entirely a knee jerk reaction. High fuel prices might go down, but CAFE is here to stay. And the new CAFE will apply to ALL cars and trucks not just cars. They have to make sure they're selling enough high mileage vehicles to offset the low mileage ones. If they don't have enough high mileage vehilces on the market, it will be hard to make the average. So, once again, if you'd consider that buckling, I guess it is.

I say knee jerk reaction because they already sell so many gas guzzlers. Now GM is in "cover our a**" mode & throwing out junk (yes, I said junk). Just my view on the business.

Originally Posted by Eric77TA

Whatever the reason, it was enough of a problem that the next generation was cancelled.

I still think it's not out of the question that a G8 coupe, or even GTO could turn up. However, with the G8 sedan currently struggling a bit, I'm not sure about that.

Actually, no. The '04-'06 GTO wasn't the cause for the next generation of GTO to be cancelled. The same problems that GM is facing now have more to do with it getting cancelled. Engineering costs, fuel economy concerns, & Pontiac's overall place in the corporation were some of those problems. The only way that a G8 Coupe/GTO would go into production now is if gas got cheap again. No other reason will bring that car into the showroom.

[Lichtronamo]

Originally Posted by Eric77TA

I still think it's not out of the question that a G8 coupe, or even GTO could turn up. However, with the G8 sedan currently struggling a bit, I'm not sure about that.

There is no way a there will be a Morano/G8 coupe given 1) CAFE, 2) the poor sales of the G8 and 3) the money to develop it which GM doesn't have.

[Bravada]

It's Monaro. And the only thing why it's not going to happen is GM's skewed perception of business risk.

[LAMRONH]

Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy

Pretty sure the Stealth was a re-badged a Mitsubishi

Mitsu GT 3000 aka Dodge Stealth. http://www.3kgt.com/


At least Mopar comes up with some good model names. Unlike Lacrotch, aveo...

[Millefune]

They have a guaranteed sale of a G8 coupe here... if it's not over 3,900 lbs.

[Bravada]

Interestingly enough, the Mitsubishi 3000GT was called Mitsubishi GTO originally (in Japan). And it basically was what a contemporary GTO should have been.

[Eric77TA]

Originally Posted by SCCA1995

I say knee jerk reaction because they already sell so many gas guzzlers. Now GM is in "cover our a**" mode & throwing out junk (yes, I said junk). Just my view on the business.

We don't even know what they're going to "throw out" yet. No, the G3 probably shouldn't happen, but they could possibly do something interesting. That's what this whole debate started about was cars "killing" Pontiac but they went through the 80s and early 90s with cars with very low performance that they still managed to sell as "exciting."

Originally Posted by SCCA1995

Actually, no. The '04-'06 GTO wasn't the cause for the next generation of GTO to be cancelled. The same problems that GM is facing now have more to do with it getting cancelled. Engineering costs, fuel economy concerns, & Pontiac's overall place in the corporation were some of those problems. The only way that a G8 Coupe/GTO would go into production now is if gas got cheap again. No other reason will bring that car into the showroom.

I've read differently from a few sources, but since neither one of us was consulted on the decision or at the meeting, we'll just have to have a difference of opinion. They very easily could have done a next generation GTO instead of the G8. Seems like it wouldn't have made much difference sales-wise.

[Millefune]

I like the G8. If they kept the Atari gauges instead of putting a blank hole in the slot, I'd be considering a dark red G8 GT since odds are the Coupe 60 isn't coming... and then slapping a blower with long tubes (with cats, of course) and a dyno tune on it to blow the doors of some others. I just wish it wasn't so porky too. The should have named the G8 the Grand Prix.

[Odin]

Gm really needs new management, I mean when it gets to the stage of GM cutting programs due to lack of money, it doesn't really make a ringing endorsement of the current management.

And really what is the point of pontiac really?

[SCCA1995]

Originally Posted by Millefune

I like the G8. If they kept the Atari gauges instead of putting a blank hole in the slot, I'd be considering a dark red G8 GT since odds are the Coupe 60 isn't coming... and then slapping a blower with long tubes (with cats, of course) and a dyno tune on it to blow the doors of some others. I just wish it wasn't so porky too. The should have named the G8 the Grand Prix.

Check with some of the people at www.G8board.com. In regards to the Atari guages, all of the hook-ups may be there, just simply unplugged due to bad reviews of their looks.

[benroethig]

Originally Posted by Bravada

Interestingly enough, the Mitsubishi 3000GT was called Mitsubishi GTO originally (in Japan). And it basically was what a contemporary GTO should have been.

And it should have had Vin Diesel as its spokesperson right?