Pontiac G8 ST to get 3.6 di V6

[zabolots]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Just ANOTHER reason for G8 production to move to Oshawa along with Camaro.

If the G8 was going to live past it's AU built 2012 agreement I'm sure they'd move it. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing a 2nd-gen G8. I think it'll be a one-and-done car like the GTO due to it's high weight and low MPG which just don't fit into the new CAFE regs.

[nsap]

It should have had this engine from the get-go. The regular 3.6L is just not enough power to compensate for the low fuel economy figures. I hope this gives the G8 some new life. I'd like to see some new wheels for the V6 model too...make the 19" wheels optional on it!

I'm not sure if we will see the G8 past this generation or not. I honestly have not heard. I suspect we will not.

[Ambalanche]

This is smart, the 3.6 DI V6 is arguably GM's best engine. They should spread it around. Plus, the ST couldn't make it on a V8 alone. Now they need to try to improve the milage a little of the 3.6 although it has a trump card in that it uses regular gas.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by mikmak

I would assume that early in the piece and agreement would have struck to utilise Ozs capacity to manufacture the HFV6 in a way to aid the business case for Zeta development as a whole. I would also have expected the available resources of Oshawa to be made use of in manufacturing another (presumably cancelled) Zeta product for NA.

The presumed cancellation may well affect the original agreement, but for the sake of Holdens viability, I would have to hope things stay as they are...with the DIV6 becoming the default SV6/Calais powertrain and the 5 speed 195 shifting to the lower commodore models.

It would help holding to ship the Ute to America to help them keep the plant going pretty much non stop. Even if America takes 10k Utes a year, thats still a lot of cars for Holden. Still, we wont have the equipment to really make this truck, as well as the G8 sedan, a worthwhile purchase over cars like the new Nissan Maxima, Acura TL, low range BMW 5 series, or any other vehicle in its class.

Originally Posted by zabolots

If the G8 was going to live past it's AU built 2012 agreement I'm sure they'd move it. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing a 2nd-gen G8. I think it'll be a one-and-done car like the GTO due to it's high weight and low MPG which just don't fit into the new CAFE regs.

GTO had no futue past 06 either way. Holden was not going to be producing a coupe right away, if at all, and since GM NA canned the idea of another large coupe imported from Holden and ideas shifted to the G8 sedan as a better alternative, Holden canned the idea.
G8 will always be there for GM NA to draw from, but I think that a North America built G8 would make for a better car overall. Use some of the Camaro's weight loss moves and use of aluminum for hood and roof, and we could see a much lighter sedan and GM could gain back that 1mpg drop in CAFE on top of giving Pontiac a high level sedan to try and make that car company an actuall sports car company.

Originally Posted by Ambalanche

This is smart, the 3.6 DI V6 is arguably GM's best engine. They should spread it around. Plus, the ST couldn't make it on a V8 alone. Now they need to try to improve the milage a little of the 3.6 although it has a trump card in that it uses regular gas.

Remember that the ST will be brought here like the GTO was, a low prouction unit car that appeals to enthusiasts. They are already shipping G8's here, so all it takes is a few more G8 noses to make its way to the Ute's production line, and slip a few on the ship. Having a V6 model is a little silly. I think money would be better spent on certifiying a TR6060 with the L76, or just making the G8 ST in GXP trim only with both 6spd auto or manual.

36k, 405hp, 6spd auto or manual, 14 inch brakes, 4 piston calipers, 19 inch summer tires....Pontiac G8 ST.

[wescoent]

Looks like someone inside GM still has a pulse.

If they were really serious, we'd see a crew-cab and 2.0T model as well, but this is a good start.

This is still the kind of vehicle Pontiac needs to be taken seriously again.

[tomcat_cool17]

why not put in the 2.0L Turbo for fuel economy as well?

[johnny smallblock]

Originally Posted by 1931Chevy

Hell IMO they should try and shoehorn in the turbo4

I thought you only had to "shoehorn" in a larger engine. Wouldn't a smaller engine just slide right in?

[boblutzfan]

Seriously...I can't think of anyone that would buy this vehicle. The car truck idea just doesn't fly anymore. Remember the Subaru Baja? It was a sales disaster. I predict the G8 ST will flop. I would rather GM had spent the developmental money on the interior of the G8 to make it more appealing to the mainstream audience. It is too dark and lacks the all important Navigation option.

On the positive side - the DI V6 engine is a smart move. Hopefully this will find its way into other GM vehicles as well.

[Beau]

Listen up Johnny Smallblock, you .. Yeah.
DOn't even have any idea what. You know.. Ahem, what you uhh, are talking about.

CAuse, A shoehorn... Makes, things, of... if all sizes go in better....

YEAH.. in your face.

[BigAls87Z28]

It cost GM next to nothing to bring the Ute here.

[Beau]

Thats good because they'll make next to nothing to. Teeheehee.

[steined]

Where's the wagon? Come on GM. You are importing them. Bring a few thousand over and see how it goes!

[naskie18]

Originally Posted by boblutzfan

I can't think of anyone that would buy this vehicle.

*waves* Hi, I'm Nick, and the G8 ST will be my next new vehicle purchase

Originally Posted by boblutzfan

The car truck idea just doesn't fly anymore. Remember the Subaru Baja? It was a sales disaster. I predict the G8 ST will flop. I would rather GM had spent the developmental money on the interior of the G8 to make it more appealing to the mainstream audience. It is too dark and lacks the all important Navigation option.

On the positive side - the DI V6 engine is a smart move. Hopefully this will find its way into other GM vehicles as well.

I think the G8 ST will do much better than the Baja for multiple reasons, but most importantly, the fact that it has a usable bed. I'll have the capacity to put my bike in the back of the G8 ST, whereas there's no chance in hell of putting it in the bed of a Baja. The "crew cab" causes too much usable space to be lost. And the G8 ST looks phenominal...the Baja, on the other hand, was unimpressive.....but those are both just personal opinion

Back on topic, nice to see the 3.6DI available, I really like that engine....but I'll still be getting a V8

[gopedxr7]

good idea larger market share. now if they would put a damn manual transmission in it would apeal to a wider market. that and some fancy gadgets

Alan

[Rick_VT]

G8 will always be there for GM NA to draw from, but I think that a North America built G8 would make for a better car overall. Use some of the Camaro's weight loss moves and use of aluminum for hood and roof, and we could see a much lighter sedan and GM could gain back that 1mpg drop in CAFE on top of giving Pontiac a high level sedan to try and make that car company an actuall sports car company.


Remember that the ST will be brought here like the GTO was, a low prouction unit car that appeals to enthusiasts. They are already shipping G8's here, so all it takes is a few more G8 noses to make its way to the Ute's production line, and slip a few on the ship. Having a V6 model is a little silly. I think money would be better spent on certifiying a TR6060 with the L76, or just making the G8 ST in GXP trim only with both 6spd auto or manual.

36k, 405hp, 6spd auto or manual, 14 inch brakes, 4 piston calipers, 19 inch summer tires....Pontiac G8 ST.[/quote]

Im curious, what makes you think that just because building it over there will make it a better car?? And where are these Camaro weight loss moves?? that car isnt even out yet, its smaller than the G8 so it should be lighter, besides Holden has already started lookin at things to make the Commodore lots more efficient, so why should Holden lose out on sales just cause GM need to fill there plants cause they stuffed up there business??

Having a V6 model is silly?? Why is that?? why shouldnt someone be able to buy a vehicle with a decent V6 motor, just cause its supposed to be sporty doesnt mean it has to have a V8, its that kind of thought process thats got GM into the probs its got now, your idea of 1 expensive model just kills potential sales from people who dont want a V8