Pontiac G3 NOT coming to US...yet.

[K Dawg ONE]

Originally Posted by TimR

You should import a few later model GTO's, lots of people interested but the hassles and time involved can be frustrating. Probably make some money too if you are reasonable with pricing...

That the plan actually. Since the bumper standards are now on par with the US, we will bring in a GTO or two as an experiement (back by GMs Optimum Used Program of course )

BTW, all Mitsus are availble for Canada too! Do i Dare buy an Evo????

[corvettekidc6]

Originally Posted by Ming

I think those hatch headlights work much better on a Pontiac, as well as the grille. Too bad the Chevy 5-door had to get a wacky look --- they could have kept the sedan front end which looks nice, IMO, and let Pontiac have this look.

it looks like a mini-last gen vibe to me

[redimpss5]

Send it back!!

[blkwrxsti]

Originally Posted by K Dawg ONE

I eventually settled at a PBG store where I am now. I attend every product training session, I read every article regarding GM, I own GM stock, I work 60+ hours a week at my store, and I defend GM to the very end (logically, not emotionally) and I LOVE WHAT I DO! I care about GM and its success as a business not only for my paycheck but so that a piece of Americana does not die like Packard and Oldsmobile. I am a businessman and to the 100 customers a year I sell vehicles to, to them, I AM THE FACE OF GM! If I dont know my product, its GM's fault. If there is a problem with the vehicle, I field the call about the breakage, not GM. I am the front line of General Motors as are the 1000's of sales men and women in the 392 PBG dealers in Canada and the hundreds more dealers in United States and abroad. As much as I try to operate daily with as much integrity and enthusiasm as possible, to quote, "General Motors is not in the business of selling cars, it is in the business of making money". If I have to sell the ugliest of crap cars containing lawnmower engines to ensure the survival of General Motors and by doing so, be allowed to continue paying my bills, then so be it.

Your right. Im not a GM Enthusist.....I AM GENERAL MOTORS

Sorry if I offended you, your story is very impressive - but your "survival at any cost" simplification is exactly what I think is killing GM. Call me an armchair CEO if you will, but there are lots of things that GM is doing in the name of short term survival that will hurt its long term profitability.

You're still acting as if the survival of each pontiac dealership will ensure the survival of GM, and I'm still saying that too many BPG dealerships are one of GM's weaknesses. If GM was really in the business of making money, it would realize that having too many dealers is counter to that goal (short term and long term). GM's dealer body is still sized to support a 40%+ market share, and GM is illogically trying to keep every single dealer afloat and destroying each brand and their own future in the process...

I will agree with what you're saying that GM dealers are the face of GM, but I cannot believe that you would rather sell "the ugliest of crap cars containing lawnmower engines" at razor thin profit margins. Those customers are the most likely to switch when someone offers them a better deal. People drive 50 miles to get to the nearest Hyundai and Lexus dealers and pay close to sticker price because those brands stand for something. ( I don't have anything against cheap, frugal cars - if that's what your brand stands for).

Apple and Harley Davidson could have easily chased volume and made MP3 players with buttons, or sportbikes with high revving 4 cylinders like everyone else was doing, but they chose to stick to their brand philosophy, even though it led to hard times in the short term. The sad thing is that GM's various divisions are selling their souls for short term survival and it's not even slowing the bleeding. For example, Home Depot and Kmart had to close some stores to stay healthy. The economy may have snuck up on Bennigans to fast for them to take this approach, so now the company and all the stores are in Chapter 7. GM will not get better until it takes the medicine - but it's still doing self-damaging things.

[K Dawg ONE]

I do what I can do to survive day to day because thats as far as my arms reach. I put my faith and hopes in those that have the power to do more for the long term....

...2010 will be here soon and with it will come the new face of General Motors...

...if I have to sell the G3 at marginal profits until then, fine. A single dollar earned by GM is better than an entire sale lost to Toyota.

The other thing I dont get is the cutting down of PBG and its product when, as said earlier, everything is a rebadge. Then, by, that logic alone, all that is wrong over at PBG is wrong at your beloved Chevy Store

[member12]

So what did Canada do to deserve the G3?


Yall must have really pissed off the car gods....

[K Dawg ONE]

Originally Posted by member12

So what did Canada do to deserve the G3?


Yall must have really pissed off the car gods....

Probably the same things that brought Chevy the Optra, the Epica, the Aveo, etc, etc....

[96_impala_ss]

Originally Posted by member12

So what did Canada do to deserve the G3?


Yall must have really pissed off the car gods....

GM has a bad habit of changing what a brand means outside of the U.S.

Pontiac here means sporty cars. Not in Canada and specially not in Mexico. Just be thankful were not getting the Pontiac G2



Ugly... isnt it. Now thats pissing off the car gods.

What Chevrolet means to us doesnt mean that in the world. We think Corvette but most of the world thinks Daewoo cars. Chevy is a Korean car maker in Europe (Daewoo cars) and a European and Korean car maker in South America with the exception of a couple models in each individual country. They also sell a rebadged Suzuki and a rebadged Isuzu.

[FireFox89]

.....and I shall do a victory dance. Except in canada/mexico (since they sell oddly well in those respective places) , a us g3 makes no sense to pontiac. If gm gets desperate they can rebadge it a saturn and only have "minimal" backlash.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 96_impala_ss

GM has a bad habit of changing what a brand means outside of the U.S.

Pontiac here means sporty cars. Not in Canada and specially not in Mexico. Just be thankful were not getting the Pontiac G2



Ugly... isnt it. Now thats pissing off the car gods.

What Chevrolet means to us doesnt mean that in the world. We think Corvette but most of the world thinks Daewoo cars. Chevy is a Korean car maker in Europe (Daewoo cars) and a European and Korean car maker in South America with the exception of a couple models in each individual country. They also sell a rebadged Suzuki and a rebadged Isuzu.

It still has Daewoo hubcaps...

[asylum]

cant be bothered reading the whole thing, but the G3 is the exact same car as the Aveo, with a different front.... no wonder they don't sell it

[LeSabre]

Originally Posted by longislander

That "mistake" recorded a 17% sales INCREASE in July which was a way-down month for GM as a whole.
Maybe if GM had spent even ONE advertising dollar on this "mistake" sales would have been stronger from the get-go. I FINALLY saw a print-ad for the G5 just last week...part of Pontiac's "3 over 30mpg" campaign touting the car's excellent fuel mileage - and now I read about this 17% sales increase. Wonder if there's a connection...hmmm...

I don't care that the G5 recorded a 17% sales increase. They should have been sales for Chevrolet(Cobalt) or Saturn(Astra).

The G5 is a modern day Sunbird. It's body & interior is the exact same as the Cobalt's. Just like the Sunbird was to the Cavalier in the 80's to '94. The Sunfire was greatly differentiated exteriorly at least. The G5, like the Sunbird is a blatant rebadge thus a very poor & cheap badge engineering job....just like the last GTO was & the G8 is! Though the quality of the GTO & G8 are good.

[LeSabre]

Originally Posted by FireFox89

.....and I shall do a victory dance. Except in canada/mexico (since they sell oddly well in those respective places) , a us g3 makes no sense to pontiac. If gm gets desperate they can rebadge it a saturn and only have "minimal" backlash.

Actually, This is what they should do since it seems like they want to have 2 small cars here in the US. It can be the Saturn Corsa until the current Opel Corsa to the US/NA. Or, they should hurry up & get the Opel Corsa here as the Saturn Corsa.