Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! - Page 12

tollytime · 09-18-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millefune

Oh come on! God damn it! That's really frustrating for me, because I really don't want to send my money to other countries. I want my money to mostly stay HERE! I'd rather put food on an American's (even if he or she works for the greedy UAW) table. I know it sounds racist and bad of me, but I really see how bad shape we're in and I want to do what I can to help the economy (it's a little drop in the bucket, but it's something). I know you're in Canada too... but I don't want you guys getting my money either. I'm sorry... things are just really bad here (in my view, at least).

Are the G5s built in the US?

Ohio!!!

Vinsetta · 09-18-2008, 07:19 PM

Does every car have to have the faux side vents? I've never seen a design trend fall from high end vehicles to the bottom end so fast. Lutz should have delayed the release of the G3 until the side vents were removed. I'm not sure Lutz even looked at this vehicle.

K Dawg ONE · 09-18-2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millefune

Are the G5s built in the US?

Lordstown, Ohio

t-lop · 09-18-2008, 07:23 PM

I'm looking forward to the G3 ST

That's what we're going to end up with as gas prices keep going up. (Definitely kidding)

Millefune · 09-18-2008, 07:34 PM

As for comparing it with the Fit, they are in the same segment... so that's what we're supposed to do. The Fit may be (no, it definately is) better, but I think the new one looks rather plain. I loved the rocket-ship look of the first generation in the USA Fit. After my Supercharged Accord died while saving my life, I was considering just using the insurance check for a Fit and not have a car note... then I found the ridiculous bargain known as the GTO... and now I have a payment.

G5s are built in Ohio? Isn't that the place that adopted Toyota and where GM is closing the plant?

K Dawg ONE · 09-18-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millefune

G5s are built in Ohio? Isn't that the place that adopted Toyota and where GM is closing the plant?

Lordstown is where the G5/Cobalt are built until the new Cruze arrives and it will be built there.

I beleive Moraine, OH is the plant that will be closing.

As for the Toyota tie-in, the Vibe is built at NUMMI which is a Toyota Plant in California where GM 'leases' the plant and its workers to build our Vibe. Previously, the Geo Prizm (built off the Corolla platform) was built there (or was it at TMMI in Cambridge?)

PontiacBixler · 09-18-2008, 07:53 PM

The more and more I see this fricking thing on GMI's home page, the more I want to go to Lowes, buy a sledgehammer and smash the front end of this thing in.

Millefune · 09-18-2008, 07:55 PM

Thank you K Dawg.

fbg6coupe · 09-18-2008, 08:07 PM

Pontiac shouldn't have anything smaller or more entry level than a G5 XFE. BPG is supposed to be more upscale than Chevy, why compete with yourself? So stupid.

And they should discontinue the Cobalt coupe. Want a sedan, go to Chevy. Want a coupe, hit Pontiac. At least, that would be some differentiation!

Nobody goes to a Mercedes or BMW dealer looking for an Aveo priced car. Why should BPG customers? Going to that dealership means you want something more upscale/expensive than a Chevy, so why sell rebadged Chevys there. It tarnishes the image.

Greg Burr · 09-18-2008, 08:08 PM

Now my life has meaning

**GMCSonoma** · 09-18-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Dawg ONE

Lordstown is where the G5/Cobalt are built until the new Cruze arrives and it will be built there.

I beleive Moraine, OH is the plant that will be closing.

As for the Toyota tie-in, the Vibe is built at NUMMI which is a Toyota Plant in California where GM 'leases' the plant and its workers to build our Vibe. Previously, the Geo Prizm (built off the Corolla platform) was built there (or was it at TMMI in Cambridge?)

Prizm & the 85-88 Nova were built in Fremont by NUMMI...

kenman923 · 09-18-2008, 08:25 PM

They are trying to get the CAFE numbers for Buick-Pontiac-GMC. Actually, I like it better than the Chevy Aveo.

GWD · 09-18-2008, 08:34 PM

ByTheLake · 09-18-2008, 08:47 PM

I'm struggling to post something constructive. Let's see...

1) At least the G3 didn't cost a lot of engineering money to create

2) The G3 isn't likely to be stolen

How's that?

CheetahDC · 09-18-2008, 08:56 PM

I have merely two points to make in all this doom & gloom. Seriously, how do you guys live with yourselves? This is just a "meh" on my radar.

1. Believe it or not, the Aveo/G5's fuel economy is comparable with the Yaris and Fit.

Yaris: Man.: 29/36, Auto.: 29/35
Fit: Man.: 27/33, Auto.: 28/35
G3/Aveo: Man.: 27/34, Auto.: 25/34

Okay, so the auto transmission sucks, but the manual is competitive. It shows GM can make a car with competitive fuel economy in this segment. Comparing it to the Cobalt just shows how impressive the Cobalt's fuel economy is in this segment.

2. Has anyone here actually driven the 2009 Aveo and/or G3? I'm not talking about the 2008, I'm talking about the gaping maw'd '09.

09-18-2008, 07:19 PM	#167 (permalink)
Vinsetta 3.0 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Grand Blanc, Michigan Drives: 2006 Cadillac STS & 2008 Saturn Vue Red Line Posts: 506	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! Does every car have to have the faux side vents? I've never seen a design trend fall from high end vehicles to the bottom end so fast. Lutz should have delayed the release of the G3 until the side vents were removed. I'm not sure Lutz even looked at this vehicle. __________________

09-18-2008, 07:23 PM	#169 (permalink)
t-lop 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oakville ON Posts: 107	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! I'm looking forward to the G3 ST That's what we're going to end up with as gas prices keep going up. (Definitely kidding)

09-18-2008, 07:34 PM	#170 (permalink)
Millefune 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vacaville, CA Drives: 2006 GTO, 1997 SC2 Posts: 1,182	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! As for comparing it with the Fit, they are in the same segment... so that's what we're supposed to do. The Fit may be (no, it definately is) better, but I think the new one looks rather plain. I loved the rocket-ship look of the first generation in the USA Fit. After my Supercharged Accord died while saving my life, I was considering just using the insurance check for a Fit and not have a car note... then I found the ridiculous bargain known as the GTO... and now I have a payment. G5s are built in Ohio? Isn't that the place that adopted Toyota and where GM is closing the plant? __________________ "People meet, and people part. This meeting may truly be as insignificant as a ripple in the ocean, but that's alright. I'm going to enjoy it as much as I can, while it lasts." - Shido Jennifer: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2913762

09-18-2008, 07:53 PM	#172 (permalink)
PontiacBixler 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Drives: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Posts: 1,117	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! The more and more I see this fricking thing on GMI's home page, the more I want to go to Lowes, buy a sledgehammer and smash the front end of this thing in. __________________ What is happening to the GM that grew up with for these many decades? If I could I would institute a hostile take over and kick the entire board and executives out and fill the positions with creative minds under the age of 35.

09-18-2008, 07:55 PM	#173 (permalink)
Millefune 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vacaville, CA Drives: 2006 GTO, 1997 SC2 Posts: 1,182	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! Thank you K Dawg. __________________ "People meet, and people part. This meeting may truly be as insignificant as a ripple in the ocean, but that's alright. I'm going to enjoy it as much as I can, while it lasts." - Shido Jennifer: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2913762

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09-18-2008, 08:07 PM	#174 (permalink)
fbg6coupe 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Drives: Black 2006 Pontiac G6 GT Coupe Posts: 200	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! Pontiac shouldn't have anything smaller or more entry level than a G5 XFE. BPG is supposed to be more upscale than Chevy, why compete with yourself? So stupid. And they should discontinue the Cobalt coupe. Want a sedan, go to Chevy. Want a coupe, hit Pontiac. At least, that would be some differentiation! Nobody goes to a Mercedes or BMW dealer looking for an Aveo priced car. Why should BPG customers? Going to that dealership means you want something more upscale/expensive than a Chevy, so why sell rebadged Chevys there. It tarnishes the image. __________________ BEAUTY HAS A DARK SIDE THE G6 COUPE Designed For Action

09-18-2008, 08:08 PM	#175 (permalink)
Greg Burr 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Drives: 2003 Ford Escape XLT AWD Posts: 1,030	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! Now my life has meaning

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kenman923 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Feb 2005 Drives: 2009 Acura TSX Posts: 2,879	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! They are trying to get the CAFE numbers for Buick-Pontiac-GMC. Actually, I like it better than the Chevy Aveo.

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GWD 2.5L Iron Duke Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Easton, MA Drives: 2004 Chevy Colorado 2003 Saturn Vue Posts: 29	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! Boo!

09-18-2008, 08:47 PM	#179 (permalink)
ByTheLake 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Traverse City, MI Drives: '04 Corvette, '09 CTS 4 Posts: 2,966	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! I'm struggling to post something constructive. Let's see... 1) At least the G3 didn't cost a lot of engineering money to create 2) The G3 isn't likely to be stolen How's that?

09-18-2008, 08:56 PM	#180 (permalink)
CheetahDC 2.8 Liter Turbocharged V6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ohio Drives: 2000 Dodge Neon Posts: 883	Re: Pontiac G3 Comes State-Side! I have merely two points to make in all this doom & gloom. Seriously, how do you guys live with yourselves? This is just a "meh" on my radar. 1. Believe it or not, the Aveo/G5's fuel economy is comparable with the Yaris and Fit. Yaris: Man.: 29/36, Auto.: 29/35 Fit: Man.: 27/33, Auto.: 28/35 G3/Aveo: Man.: 27/34, Auto.: 25/34 Okay, so the auto transmission sucks, but the manual is competitive. It shows GM can make a car with competitive fuel economy in this segment. Comparing it to the Cobalt just shows how impressive the Cobalt's fuel economy is in this segment. 2. Has anyone here actually driven the 2009 Aveo and/or G3? I'm not talking about the 2008, I'm talking about the gaping maw'd '09.

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