AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line - Page 3

The Law · 06-02-2008, 09:57 AM

it depends on what is : aveo clone or, if like current opel corsa, real Suzuki swift, or chevy wtcc... Great! bring it on.

But if just a re badged Chevy they can keep it.

Pontiac should target Mazda and stop with the dumb stuff

01sunfire01 · 06-02-2008, 09:59 AM

the G6 does not look like any other GM car being made right now. its the only 2 door family sedan left for gm also. the G3 does look just like the aveo. i have seen them in canada and it must be canada but pontiac outsells chevy up there no proplem. you go up there you see the G5 and G3 everywheres. if it sells who gives a crap what it looks like. im sure theres going to be things in the G3 that you cant get in the aveo so make up for it looking alot like the aveo. also The G5 i read somewheres its geting done over right when the cobalt does to make it look more like a pontiac.

samkung · 06-02-2008, 10:01 AM

NO NO NO leave it to Chevy

paul8488 · 06-02-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Law

it depends on what is : aveo clone or, if like current opel corsa, real Suzuki swift, or chevy wtcc... Great! bring it on.

But if just a re badged Chevy they can keep it.

It looks exactly like the Aveo with a different grille. Already exists in Mexico (and Canada as the Wave). It's as poorly differentiated from the Aveo as the G5 is from the Cobalt, if not worse.

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GM, give Saturn the Corsa, give Chevrolet an Aveo that gets good fuel economy, and can Pontiac.

The Solstice could get a makeover and become a Buick (hey, a Kappe Velite is better than no Velite at all!)...

The Vibe could become a... hmmm... make the Vibe AWD can call it a GMC... or only sell it overseas as a Chevrolet (basically a Rezzo replacement)...

The G8 could get the Chinese face and become the Park Avenue...

The G8 ST could easily get a new grille to make it a GMC or the Middle Eastern face to make it a Chevrolet...

Torrent is already headed to GMC (in spirit) as the Terrain...

The G6? Well it's at the end of its life... let it die a natural death and let Pontiac go out with an embarassing whimper...

CADILLACSIXTEEN · 06-02-2008, 10:02 AM

The only way this would be acceptable is if they plan on being this POS here as an entry fuel efficient car because they plan on killing the G5 and replacing it with a RWD sport-compact.

WishIhadatruck · 06-02-2008, 10:03 AM

This would be more acceptable if the Aveo was a better vehicle. A Fit would make a much better Pontiac than an Aveo. It is often described as having the handling of a go-cart. It is probably the only appealing small car to me.

I feel another round of stop gaps coming on.

johnriley · 06-02-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroCrazy

I think adding a car with good fuel economy is a good idea in this day and age, but its frustrating knowing that this car is another old-time grille-swap GM rebadge job.

Yeah, but it is a better looking grill.

zl-1 · 06-02-2008, 10:05 AM

Hell yeah, there's Excitement for ya!

The Law · 06-02-2008, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul8488

It looks exactly like the Aveo with a different grille. Already exists in Mexico (and Canada as the Wave). It's as poorly differentiated from the Aveo as the G5 is from the Cobalt, if not worse.

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yes, the picture does but will it be the old/current aveo then the new aveo sold by chevy.which would be like vw with citi models.Or if the current Opel Corsa is on the same platform why not just re badge that for the NA market built in Brazil or wherever gm normally builds older for other countries.

ScottS · 06-02-2008, 10:12 AM

The Law · 06-02-2008, 10:12 AM

at least they arent bring over the buick sail

Puzzel · 06-02-2008, 10:12 AM

Having lived in Canada for the first 3/4 of my life, I'm ok with Pontiac having a sub-compact, even if its just a Chevy clone. However, I will never consider 25/34 to be "good" gas mileage for anything compact-sized or smaller. That's the most ridiculous statement I've read in a long time. How can 25 mpg city be considered good, when the Colorado can achieve 20 mpg city with its over-weight, bloated brick design (and I love my Colorado btw). I guess that makes the Colorado absolutely amazing then.

eaton53 · 06-02-2008, 10:19 AM

They already have the Vibe.
One turd in the lineup is enough.

member12 · 06-02-2008, 10:20 AM

You know what would help meet CAFE standards? Selling more Aveos....you know what sells? Good product.

Spend the money on making the Aveo a better car instead of making Pontiac even more pathetic than it is now. Offering the quality and fuel efficiency that Honda and Toyota offer in this segment will increase sales more than re-badging a thirsty little econo-car that is about as sporty as a Huffy.

If you are going to badge engineer something, at least make it different...and badge engineer something that is worth the effort.

triadecho · 06-02-2008, 10:26 AM

[quote=plane;1412706]Where's the GM $12k subcompact that achieves 30 mpg city, 44 highway?
Maybe something that is slightly competitive with Toyota and Honda's offerings?
quote]

This sounds like an exact descriptiom of an Echo which failed in the market during the era of $1.30/gal gas.

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The Law 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ulster County NY Drives: VW Golf 1.8T Saab 900 SE 2.0T(5spd) Honda Civic Posts: 455	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line it depends on what is : aveo clone or, if like current opel corsa, real Suzuki swift, or chevy wtcc... Great! bring it on. But if just a re badged Chevy they can keep it. Pontiac should target Mazda and stop with the dumb stuff __________________ Iraq War Vet 2003-2004 Wanted: (GM Euro )([Buick[/size]) 3dr/5dr. hatchback,Bio-Diesel or gas: 1.8-2.0 turbo, computer assisted -AWD, Blue tooth interface,sport micro fiber seatstrimmed in leather, projector lights, Led tails. Waiting for 2010 Buick Astra/Corsa Last edited by The Law : 06-02-2008 at 09:59 AM. Reason: sp

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01sunfire01 2.8 Liter Turbocharged V6 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CT Drives: 2007 pontiac G5 GT 5 SPEED 2000 chevy blazer LT Posts: 877	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line the G6 does not look like any other GM car being made right now. its the only 2 door family sedan left for gm also. the G3 does look just like the aveo. i have seen them in canada and it must be canada but pontiac outsells chevy up there no proplem. you go up there you see the G5 and G3 everywheres. if it sells who gives a crap what it looks like. im sure theres going to be things in the G3 that you cant get in the aveo so make up for it looking alot like the aveo. also The G5 i read somewheres its geting done over right when the cobalt does to make it look more like a pontiac. Last edited by 01sunfire01 : 06-02-2008 at 10:02 AM.

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samkung 4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Drives: Mazda 2 Posts: 1,558	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line NO NO NO leave it to Chevy

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CADILLACSIXTEEN 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Drives: 2006 Fusion Orange Metallic Pontiac G6 GTP Coupe Posts: 1,423	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line The only way this would be acceptable is if they plan on being this POS here as an entry fuel efficient car because they plan on killing the G5 and replacing it with a RWD sport-compact. __________________

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WishIhadatruck 4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Drives: '01 Grand Prix GT '96 Roadmaster Wagon Posts: 1,787	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line This would be more acceptable if the Aveo was a better vehicle. A Fit would make a much better Pontiac than an Aveo. It is often described as having the handling of a go-cart. It is probably the only appealing small car to me. I feel another round of stop gaps coming on. __________________ 1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix

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zl-1 3.0 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Blood Mountain Posts: 652	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line Hell yeah, there's Excitement for ya!

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The Law 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ulster County NY Drives: VW Golf 1.8T Saab 900 SE 2.0T(5spd) Honda Civic Posts: 455	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line at least they arent bring over the buick sail __________________ Iraq War Vet 2003-2004 Wanted: (GM Euro )([Buick[/size]) 3dr/5dr. hatchback,Bio-Diesel or gas: 1.8-2.0 turbo, computer assisted -AWD, Blue tooth interface,sport micro fiber seatstrimmed in leather, projector lights, Led tails. Waiting for 2010 Buick Astra/Corsa

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Puzzel 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD Drives: 05 Colorado EC LS 2WD I5 5M Posts: 212	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line Having lived in Canada for the first 3/4 of my life, I'm ok with Pontiac having a sub-compact, even if its just a Chevy clone. However, I will never consider 25/34 to be "good" gas mileage for anything compact-sized or smaller. That's the most ridiculous statement I've read in a long time. How can 25 mpg city be considered good, when the Colorado can achieve 20 mpg city with its over-weight, bloated brick design (and I love my Colorado btw). I guess that makes the Colorado absolutely amazing then. __________________ In mourning for the still-birth of the G8 ST! Current Rides: 05 Colorado EC LS 2WD I5 5M in Sunburnt Orange 02 Honda VTX 1800C Past Favorite Rides: 02 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 6M --> still miss it! 76 Pontiac Ventura Coupe 260ci V8 A3 (all time fav)

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eaton53 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,429	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line They already have the Vibe. One turd in the lineup is enough. __________________ TiresomeOverratedYawnmobilesOrTediousAppliances When you're falling on your face you're still moving forward. Toyota... moving forward.

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member12 6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Baton Rouge Drives: 2007 Silverado 4x4 Posts: 7,665	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line You know what would help meet CAFE standards? Selling more Aveos....you know what sells? Good product. Spend the money on making the Aveo a better car instead of making Pontiac even more pathetic than it is now. Offering the quality and fuel efficiency that Honda and Toyota offer in this segment will increase sales more than re-badging a thirsty little econo-car that is about as sporty as a Huffy. If you are going to badge engineer something, at least make it different...and badge engineer something that is worth the effort. __________________ Get your geek on in 2012! Last edited by member12 : 06-02-2008 at 10:23 AM.

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triadecho 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 216	Re: AN: Dealer Sources Say GM Plans To Add G3 To Pontiac Line [quote=plane;1412706]Where's the GM $12k subcompact that achieves 30 mpg city, 44 highway? Maybe something that is slightly competitive with Toyota and Honda's offerings? quote] This sounds like an exact descriptiom of an Echo which failed in the market during the era of $1.30/gal gas.

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