Buick, Pontiac & GMC To Get 12 New Vehicles Over The Next 20 Months - No Trans Am

davidlane · 02-12-2008, 07:06 AM

Buick, Pontiac and GMC dealers will get 12 new or special-edition vehicles over the next 20 months — but they won't get a Pontiac Trans Am.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...802120311/1203

tholland · 02-12-2008, 07:15 AM

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Pontiac might not end up as GM's performance division, dealers said they were told.

So there it is. There is no point in saving Pontiac if indeed that is the case. So has GM thrown in the towel?

I feel sick!

dratnol · 02-12-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tholland

So there it is. There is no point in saving Pontiac if indeed that is the case. So has GM thrown in the towel?

I feel sick!

Calm down, Pontiac is not the Trans Am.

tholland · 02-12-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dratnol

Calm down, Pontiac is not the Trans Am.

You didn't read the quote from the article... I was not refering to the Trans Am, it was the comment that "Pontiac might not end up as GM's performance division".

jasaero · 02-12-2008, 08:30 AM

If this ends up being true, I will consider this GM's biggest mistake in reacting to CAFE. Pontiac really should be about performance. Even if the G8 doesn't last long, they should have smaller more effiecent RWD and AWD cars. I think RWD makes more sense for a performance brand needing effiency though. A transverse AWD setup is actually worse than just going RWD from a fuel economy perspective. That was one suggestion made though in other discussions like this that Pontiac would get primarily AWD Eppy II and smaller cars. I really think pontiac will still get an Alpha and think that Kappa II will not just be roadsters, but also mini coupes and sedans. That would work for Pontiac to have all very small to mid sized RWD cars with great handling characteristics and mostly 4 bangers, but not necessarily big power outside of GXP models.

Phoenix · 02-12-2008, 09:03 AM

I assume they mean Firebird because the Trans Am name will never come back.

I really don't see any reason a Firebird couldn't come back. Alpha is the future of this brand, a smaller Firebird with turbo V6 engines solves all these problems.

driver · 02-12-2008, 09:35 AM

Maybe somebody will make a Trans Am body kit for the Camaro. That's all you need.

Phoenix · 02-12-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by driver

Maybe somebody will make a Trans Am body kit for the Camaro. That's all you need.

If they do a good job I might be interested.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-12-2008, 09:43 AM

What's this Sierra Pro Grade they're talking about?

samy1691 · 02-12-2008, 09:47 AM

Most....not all car companies react instead of acting bold in tough situations.....similiar to government policies!!!!!! I'm a Camaro fan, but it would be great to see a F/TA in the muscle car mix.

goblue · 02-12-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tholland

So there it is. There is no point in saving Pontiac if indeed that is the case. So has GM thrown in the towel?

I feel sick!

If this is the case, then axe Pontiac.

greenrail · 02-12-2008, 09:58 AM

Good Grief, folks, this horse has been beaten to death. Let it rest in peace!

TJ95GAGT · 02-12-2008, 09:59 AM

I really don't see the point to having a Pontiac brand if its just going to continue be the arguably less attractive siblings to Chevy and Saturn cars and the G8, which probably wont be around long by the way they are talking.

**paul8488** · 02-12-2008, 10:01 AM

GM really doesn't have their heart in Pontiac. Let it die... they don't need a new GEO brand. Saturn is currently doing Pontiac better than Pontiac (with the exception of the G8)... turn the G8 into a Caprice or Impala, let the Vibe / Nummi connection die, and put poor Pontiac out of its misery.

mrgto · 02-12-2008, 10:01 AM

Special edition cars means those stupid ass crap add on's that they put on GMC trucks or the sticker jobs they put on Buicks or Pontiacs.

Though I did hear there might be a G5 GXP.

02-12-2008, 07:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
davidlane 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Drives: '90 Buick Reatta conv Posts: 418	Buick, Pontiac & GMC To Get 12 New Vehicles Over The Next 20 Months - No Trans Am Buick, Pontiac and GMC dealers will get 12 new or special-edition vehicles over the next 20 months — but they won't get a Pontiac Trans Am. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...802120311/1203 __________________ davidlane Reatta Conv

02-12-2008, 08:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
jasaero 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 975	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac If this ends up being true, I will consider this GM's biggest mistake in reacting to CAFE. Pontiac really should be about performance. Even if the G8 doesn't last long, they should have smaller more effiecent RWD and AWD cars. I think RWD makes more sense for a performance brand needing effiency though. A transverse AWD setup is actually worse than just going RWD from a fuel economy perspective. That was one suggestion made though in other discussions like this that Pontiac would get primarily AWD Eppy II and smaller cars. I really think pontiac will still get an Alpha and think that Kappa II will not just be roadsters, but also mini coupes and sedans. That would work for Pontiac to have all very small to mid sized RWD cars with great handling characteristics and mostly 4 bangers, but not necessarily big power outside of GXP models.

02-12-2008, 09:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Phoenix 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Drives: 1995 Pontiac Trans Am 1995 Buick LeSabre Posts: 1,053	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac I assume they mean Firebird because the Trans Am name will never come back. I really don't see any reason a Firebird couldn't come back. Alpha is the future of this brand, a smaller Firebird with turbo V6 engines solves all these problems. __________________ 1995 Pontiac Trans Am LT1 5.7L (retired for winter) 1995 Buick LeSabre 3800 Gone: 2001 Chevrolet Monte Carlo LS 3400 Gone: 1997 Chevrolet S-10 4x4 4.3L

02-12-2008, 09:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
driver 2.2 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 64	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac Maybe somebody will make a Trans Am body kit for the Camaro. That's all you need.

02-12-2008, 09:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
FenwickHockey65 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: West Chester, OH Drives: Chevrolet Malibu LS, GMC Envoy SLE, GMC Sonoma SLS Posts: 5,486	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac What's this Sierra Pro Grade they're talking about? __________________ Proud to drive American. Proud to drive GM. Current Cars: 2007 Chevrolet Malibu LS: 2.2L ECOTEC I-4 2003 GMC Envoy SLE: 4.2L Vortec 4200 I-6 1998 GMC Sonoma SLS Ext. Cab: 4.3L Vortec 4300 V6 Former Cars: 1993 Saturn SW2 (1993-2006, 243,000 miles) 1989 GMC Safari SLT (1989-2003, 293,000 miles) Future Car: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT RS: 3.6L DI VVT V6

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02-12-2008, 09:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
samy1691 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 254	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac Most....not all car companies react instead of acting bold in tough situations.....similiar to government policies!!!!!! I'm a Camaro fan, but it would be great to see a F/TA in the muscle car mix. __________________ Sammy

02-12-2008, 09:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
greenrail 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Illinois Drives: 1998 Camaro SS Convertible Posts: 135	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac Good Grief, folks, this horse has been beaten to death. Let it rest in peace!

02-12-2008, 09:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
TJ95GAGT 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: DE Posts: 765	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac I really don't see the point to having a Pontiac brand if its just going to continue be the arguably less attractive siblings to Chevy and Saturn cars and the G8, which probably wont be around long by the way they are talking.

02-12-2008, 10:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
paul8488 GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: France Drives: 2007 MBK Flipper Scooter Posts: 13,354	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac GM really doesn't have their heart in Pontiac. Let it die... they don't need a new GEO brand. Saturn is currently doing Pontiac better than Pontiac (with the exception of the G8)... turn the G8 into a Caprice or Impala, let the Vibe / Nummi connection die, and put poor Pontiac out of its misery. __________________ *The department of redundancy department.*

02-12-2008, 10:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
mrgto 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 592	Re: B-P-G: No Trans Am for Pontiac Special edition cars means those stupid ass crap add on's that they put on GMC trucks or the sticker jobs they put on Buicks or Pontiacs. Though I did hear there might be a G5 GXP.

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