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Old 11-04-2008, 07:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Anybody else notice that the 3.5 in the G6 is E85 compliant?
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Good news on the 4-cyl. Putting them in volume models will surely help with GM's CAFE numbers. However, I really want the 3.6L/6-Speed in the convertible!

The 3.9L/4-speed in the GT convertible is tired and thirsty - it's not even available in the coupe and sedan.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:40 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: 2009.5 Brings 4-Cylinder G6 Coupe

GM should market the G6 coupe better. I hardly see any on the road. Back in the Grand AM days the coupe sold like 25% more than the sedan... with the G6 it looks like 90% sedans instead.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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GM should market the G6 coupe better. I hardly see any on the road. Back in the Grand AM days the coupe sold like 25% more than the sedan... with the G6 it looks like 90% sedans instead.
Ain't that the truth....

Why Pontiac got away from branding "Ram Air" perplexes me. Granted the hood scoops on the GA GT coupe were fake but it still had a feeling to it.

The G6 coupe has some odd proportions to it that I think people aren't fans of.... Namely the amount of blank sheet metal between the doors and rear wheels.

I used to think that the GA sedan was goofy looking compared to the coupe, now I feel the opposite when looking at the G6.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:17 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It's about time. I wish that combo was out a few years ago.

4 cyl. with 18 wheels would attract a lot of the younger buyers.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:19 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Ain't that the truth....

Why Pontiac got away from branding "Ram Air" perplexes me. Granted the hood scoops on the GA GT coupe were fake but it still had a feeling to it.

The G6 coupe has some odd proportions to it that I think people aren't fans of.... Namely the amount of blank sheet metal between the doors and rear wheels.

I used to think that the GA sedan was goofy looking compared to the coupe, now I feel the opposite when looking at the G6.
Agreed Sure the Grand Am's "hey look at me" styling was not for everyone but The G6 looks to plain in comparison. However the Grand Am is a girls car (The ones I see usually have a female driver). It kinda sucked that the hood scoops on the GT's were fake but the Ram Air made up for it. Back on topic here it's nice that Gm has Finally put in a 4 cylinder but more power and torque would have been nice. My N bod easily trumps it when it comes to Torque numbers
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:31 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I agree that the 2.0 DI would be a welcome addition...however...the 2.0 DI is a significantly more expensive engine than the 3.5 V6, with two cams instead of one, direct injection, and a turbocharger. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it (it would give the car unique appeal) but the 3.5 V6 is underappreciated for what it is. 220 hp/220 torque is a respectable number, not much off from the 2.0 DI.

What they SHOULD do is offer manual transmissions across all engines, and make the 6-speed automatic replace all of the 4-speeds. Heck, I'm even a fan of the 3.9 V6 -- keep that around as an option too. The HV V6 models are great engines.

I find it hard to believe that offering more engine and transmission choices would significantly impact the price of the vehicle, and it would offer something the competition doesn't, as well as keep in line with Pontiac's "customizable" image (which they are currently pushing with silly things like the chrome exhaust tips and such).

So... 2.4 I4, 3.5 V6, 3.9 V6, and 3.6 HF, all with manual transmissions. Sounds like a winner to me.

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Ok pontiac is performance brand according to GM and nobody else. Now why dont they use 2.0 T from saab as a base engine and 2.0 DI from sky to replace crapy 3.5L. and 3.6 di to replace standard 3.6. and add 6-speed manual.Now that would improve g6 right away. It would be much different from malibu and aura. it just shows you how gm can not manage brands. Look they already have these engines why not use them?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:35 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I agree that the 2.0 DI would be a welcome addition...however...the 2.0 DI is a significantly more expensive engine than the 3.5 V6, with two cams instead of one, direct injection, and a turbocharger. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it (it would give the car unique appeal) but the 3.5 V6 is underappreciated for what it is. 220 hp/220 torque is a respectable number, not much off from the 2.0 DI.

What they SHOULD do is offer manual transmissions across all engines, and make the 6-speed automatic replace all of the 4-speeds. Heck, I'm even a fan of the 3.9 V6 -- keep that around as an option too. The HV V6 models are great engines.

I find it hard to believe that offering more engine and transmission choices would significantly impact the price of the vehicle, and it would offer something the competition doesn't, as well as keep in line with Pontiac's "customizable" image (which they are currently pushing with silly things like the chrome exhaust tips and such).

So... 2.4 I4, 3.5 V6, 3.9 V6, and 3.6 HF, all with manual transmissions. Sounds like a winner to me.
With a few updates the 3.9L V6 could be putting out more horsepower than the 3.6L as well as significantly more torque.
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thats good that the G6 is geting the 4cyl. but my g5 its rated 173hp and 165torque. wonder why they would down the power in the bigger car
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:24 AM   #40 (permalink)
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thats good that the G6 is geting the 4cyl. but my g5 its rated 173hp and 165torque. wonder why they would down the power in the bigger car
Because your G5 is rated with premium fuel, while the G6 4-cyl is made to use regular only.
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Because your G5 is rated with premium fuel, while the G6 4-cyl is made to use regular only.
Also it's Pontiac's Bargain basement G6 model which means that Value has more importance then performance.
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thats good that the G6 is geting the 4cyl. but my g5 its rated 173hp and 165torque. wonder why they would down the power in the bigger car
or my N bod malibu which is rated at 170 horsepower and 190 pound feet of torque. Sure it's alot older than the G6 four cylinder but It will still smoke it either way
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:15 AM   #43 (permalink)
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No manual? No want. Yea, lets not throw the Turbo motor with the Saab 6spd....that would make too much sense......morons.
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or my N bod malibu which is rated at 170 horsepower and 190 pound feet of torque. Sure it's alot older than the G6 four cylinder but It will still smoke it either way
Your N-body Malibu has a 3100 V6 making 170 hp, 190 torque...or it has the 2.4 TwinCam making 150 hp/150 torque, or it has the 2.2 Ecotec making 140 hp/150 torque. The 4-cyl in the G6 is vastly superior to any 4-cylinder you might have in your car.
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The G6 coupe has some odd proportions to it that I think people aren't fans of.... Namely the amount of blank sheet metal between the doors and rear wheels.

I used to think that the GA sedan was goofy looking compared to the coupe, now I feel the opposite when looking at the G6.
And the ENORMOUS butt and comically exaggerated sloping beltline. They turned it up to 11.
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