Rumormill: Suburban, Escalade ESV moving to Lambda

[1.21 giggawatts]

wonder how efficient the 2015 escalade hybrid will be!?!?!

[jmlee0695]

let me ask you this. IF GM gets Lambda II to tow 10,000 lbs and be able to go off road without breaking a sweat,will you still be crying? I know, stupid question,if GM cured cancer,youd all say "What took them so long" youll never be happy

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

SUBURBAN TOOO!!!!!!!!!

Traverse, Acadia, Enclave, Enclave, Suburban, Escalade, Yukon too?

ANyone else really irritated?

You forgot the Outlook!!!!

Originally Posted by RamJet502

I second that

I guess I will third it then

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by jmlee0695

let me ask you this. IF GM gets Lambda II to tow 10,000 lbs and be able to go off road without breaking a sweat,will you still be crying? I know, stupid question,if GM cured cancer,youd all say "What took them so long" youll never be happy

lol, so true!

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

God forbid GM has the idea of putting Town & Country and Caravan and Routan on Lambda too!!!

NO!!!!!!!!!pretty soon the only GM platform will be Lambda if they keep putting all their vehicles on it.

[AndrewGS]

Good thing there are lots of old Suburbans still around. They'll be needed if they actually perform this vasectomy.

Having both a GMT-800 Suburban and a Lamdba Acadia in the family I can tell you that Lambda is not only too candy-assed to be a Suburban, but it's also WAY too small, even with "stretching".

[jmlee0695]

Originally Posted by 'Vette Dude

NO!!!!!!!!!pretty soon the only GM platform will be Lambda if they keep putting all their vehicles on it.

So your saying they should build an all new platform for the minivans when they already have a perfectly competent platform for it?

[jmlee0695]

Originally Posted by AndrewGS

Good thing there are lots of old Suburbans still around. They'll be needed if they actually perform this vasectomy.

Having both a GMT-800 Suburban and a Lamdba Acadia in the family I can tell you that Lambda is not only too candy-assed to be a Suburban, but it's also WAY too small, even with "stretching".

lamdba II will be out by then

[Skank Boy]

A FWD Suburban and Escalade?....LOL...GM of the 80's is back and worse than ever. What's next the resurrection of the GM-10 platform?. I'm really beginning to loose all interest with GM products.

[tamatt27]

Originally Posted by drew630

FWD has nothing to do with it. It's the frame that allows for the higher tow ratings.

When you put a loaded trailer onto the hitch on the rear of the vehicle, what do the front wheels have the tendency of doing?

[SierraGS]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

SUBURBAN TOOO!!!!!!!!!

Traverse, Acadia, Enclave, Enclave, Suburban, Escalade, Yukon too?

ANyone else really irritated?

Why get irritated?

Did you think GM's management got smart overnight?

Just another wrong direction decision by inept managers.

If the Grand Caravan moves to Lambda (good move) as well as a Chevy version (bad move) - should be a Buick since Buick Minivans sell in China and a Buick Minivan is a more logical place for "future" Chrysler Town and Country buyers; and at that point the Lambda platform will be very well utilized - probably "over-utilized".

The Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade/Suburbans should stay on the Truck platform where they will increase volume/profit of the Truck line which will have increasing sales going forward along with housing'infrastructure programs and CAFE for trucks will lowered - just like in the past. Congress will not take trucks from Farmers, Contractors, Ranchers and Tradesman and future trucks will get better MPG than todays.

Anyone notice gas prices are under $2.00 a gallon in some places?

Anyone notice all of the talk about "infrastructure projects"?

Anyone notice Toyota Sequoia sales went up again last month?

Well we know noone on GM's board has.

[minnfang]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

SUBURBAN TOOO!!!!!!!!!

Traverse, Acadia, Enclave, Enclave, Suburban, Escalade, Yukon too?

ANyone else really irritated?

I'm going to agree with you on this one. Moving Suburban from BOF would be stupid, stupid, stupid!!!

Suburban needs to stay BOF. Especially if they kill Tahoe and Trailblazer (good idea). Suburban would pick up some of those sales.

[Z28x]

Originally Posted by escaladelover

***** CAFE

Don't blame CAFE, GM wouldn't give up popular and profitable trucks just for few CAFE mpg.

GM got the peak oil spook when gas hit $4+ this past summer. Despite the current price drop as investors deleverage and economies slow once we find the bottom oil prices are going to explode again. Add to that the dollar is f**ked once the deleveraging and deflation stops, gas will be $6+ by Summer 2010

[ejfx]

UNACCEPTABLE !

Why cant this nightmare end...Please GM, just go away...your causing me too much grief.

Why do I still come here and get pissed off at everything I read...maybe I cant let go of the past...

This thing will probably be dinky...the honda pilot could probably kick its ass.

[goblue]

So....how much you want to bet Lambda II will be capable of transverse and longitudinal engine layouts. I'd put money on that.

The H1 had an IRS - don't see anyone complaining about that.

So, all they have to do is beef up the unibody, create an extended version and you could get a 10K tow rating. V8s will fit under the hood currently.

Unibody SUVs have lots of advantages. Far superior packaging for one. They just need to increase strength. 20 years ago, not possible, now - very possible.

Remember everyone, this is Lambda II they are talking about. So, comparisons to Lambda I are appropriate, but 2014 is a long way off and they can make this platform accept any drivetrain they want. From E-Flex to the small block RWD