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Old 07-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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NPR Reports on the Camaro

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Re: NPR Reports on the Camaro

Good article. GM needs those these days.

Saw two truckloads of Camaros heading south from the plant this morning. Man it's nice to see them all on that truck. I wish I was in a position to buy.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I was listening to a report on the moon landing when that came on. I was expecting a real hatchet job, but was pleasantly surprised. The comments on their site aren't much of a surprise though.

Note: The article and radio version are pretty much identical, but I suggest listening to it.

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I am glad the news on the Camaro is positive! The fact that 15000 have been Sold and 13000 are on back order this is great. At these sales levels is GM making money on them?
I did see elsewhere that Toyota has 41000 pre-orders on the Pruis!

Now to my reality question: Why is GM holding back production when frustrated buyers, if they were at all like me ( won't wait too long ); would probably cross shop as there are many other great offerings? I can't believe living in California that I have only spotted 1 Camaro on the street to date. I have seen many Challengers, Mustangs, dozens of Genesis Coupes, and G35-G37; these all compete with Camaro sales. Also the fact that Rental Agencies are getting so many Camaros couldn't that be seen as negative?

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I am glad the news on the Camaro is positive! The fact that 15000 have been Sold and 13000 are on back order this is great. At these sales levels is GM making money on them?
I did see elsewhere that Toyota has 41000 pre-orders on the Pruis!
Ach...that annoys me.

It's good to see even a left-leaning source like NPR compliment the Camaro. But I think I can guess what sort of comments will flood the comments section...
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This is outstanding news when one considers these sales, took place when the GM Company was in bankruptcy. Another strong indication that compelling design can drive sales better than any other factor. It will be very interesting to observe to see if the New GM Company will market and advertise with same excellence as their product design.

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Why would you people think that NPR would do "a real hatchet job" just because they are "left-leaning?"
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Why would you people think that NPR would do "a real hatchet job" just because they are "left-leaning?"
I should've chosen my words more carefully. While it's clear they don't have what you would call a right-wing or conservative agenda, their reporting, while boring as hell sometimes, is generally as in-depth and fair as it gets.

This Camaro piece was more like an advertisement. But that's fine by me though.
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Now to my reality question: Why is GM holding back production when frustrated buyers, if they were at all like me ( won't wait too long ); would probably cross shop as there are many other great offerings? I can't believe living in California that I have only spotted 1 Camaro on the street to date. I have seen many Challengers, Mustangs, dozens of Genesis Coupes, and G35-G37; these all compete with Camaro sales. Also the fact that Rental Agencies are getting so many Camaros couldn't that be seen as negative?
They aren't. The plant is at maximum capacity + overtime.

The plant is sized to efficiently meet the sustainable sales volume rate that will be settled upon once the hype settles and dealership lots get filled.
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This is outstanding news when one considers these sales, took place when the GM Company was in bankruptcy. Another strong indication that compelling design can drive sales better than any other factor. It will be very interesting to observe to see if the New GM Company will market and advertise with same excellence as their product design.

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Excellent observations! It's obvious that all-along, what the American buyer wants is 'compelling design!' Now, let's get the Camaro Convertible model out, pronto!!!
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Why would you people think that NPR would do "a real hatchet job" just because they are "left-leaning?"
Because they have a history of bashing the big three, praising Honda,Toyota,Volvo and Suburu.

In addition they have a history of doing a hatchet job on anything not deemed "good on gas" ie SUVs and Muscle cars.

But GM is for better or worse affiliated with Obama now so the praise from NPR.
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Because they have a history of bashing the big three, praising Honda,Toyota,Volvo and Suburu.

In addition they have a history of doing a hatchet job on anything not deemed "good on gas" ie SUVs and Muscle cars.

But GM is for better or worse affiliated with Obama now so the praise from NPR.
As a long time listener of NPR (along with all major news organizations), I don't recall their reporting being anything like you view it to be. The fact that Americans drive, on the whole, larger vehicles than they need is the problem. If NPR reports this (and I missed that particular report), that's just reporting the facts.

By your account, should Fox News start reporting how awful GM is because the government bailed them out? Would you consider that "even handed news" or a "bias reporting?"
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As a long time listener of NPR (along with all major news organizations), I don't recall their reporting being anything like you view it to be. The fact that Americans drive, on the whole, larger vehicles than they need is the problem. If NPR reports this (and I missed that particular report), that's just reporting the facts.

By your account, should Fox News start reporting how awful GM is because the government bailed them out? Would you consider that "even handed news" or a "bias reporting?"
Evidently you miss quite a bit.

Fox News,like every news organization, should report the facts.

If they trashed the LaCrosse or any new GM product becuase it is now "Government Motors" would be wrong and "bias reporting."
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Evidently you miss quite a bit.

Fox News,like every news organization, should report the facts.

If they trashed the LaCrosse or any new GM product becuase it is now "Government Motors" would be wrong and "bias reporting."
I miss very little. I agree that all news organizations SHOULD report the facts, and many do. But it's the slant put on them with which I have a problem. Fox, to me, seems to be the worst offender. NPR, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and the rest are far more middle-of-the-road (albeit, NPR is slightly left leaning, but only slightly) than Fox News, which is much farther right than NPR is left.
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Because they have a history of bashing the big three, praising Honda,Toyota,Volvo and Suburu.

In addition they have a history of doing a hatchet job on anything not deemed "good on gas" ie SUVs and Muscle cars.

But GM is for better or worse affiliated with Obama now so the praise from NPR.
Citations needed. NPR rarely reports on cars or the auto industry period, it's hardly a systematic source of bias. (Unless you count Click-N-Clack which is an entertainment program).

I've heard all too many arguments on this site that Detroit didn't make substandard cars, it was only The Liberal Media Conspiracy who "brainwashed" people into thinking that. It's the typical cop-out (on both sides of the aisle) is to blame the media rather than reassess one's opinion.
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