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Old 10-19-2007, 12:29 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: FoMoCoNews Exclusive: Chinese Epica Gets New Chevy Sedan Face

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Oh but yeah, that nose looks pretty awful. The Epica that other markest get has a much nicer schnoze.
I agree, the car wasn't that hot to begin with and now it looks even worse.. like a bad photo chop
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:00 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I love the interior.
You must be joking?
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:31 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Uggghh! Ugly front end there. They could have done a better job with the "dual port" grille. The rest aint too bad considering what it is at least the rear is conventional and doesent take getting used to.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:11 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: FoMoCoNews Exclusive: Chinese Epica Gets New Chevy Sedan Face

Commenting the new front end:

Murder Most Horrid

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Go see the car in person before you say it's "sub-par". Not only does it look good (not in this Chinese version but in the Korean/Euro/Aussie version with nicety wheels and all) and rather "premium", but also the interior is light years ahead of Hyundai or Kia in materials' quality (perhaps the Cee'd and i30 are getting there, but the Sonata and Optima have nothing on it), and the build quality is impressive to say the least.

I haven't seen the Malibu or Aura, but I would bet it would at least hold its own against them in interior quality. To name one thing it has over them to start with: rear armrest.

The I6 in the Epica was designed by Porsche for Daewoo, so I don't think it is in any way related to the inline engines GM uses in their trucks. It was tuned for even torque delivery accross the RPM range, hence the unimpressive numbers. That said, reviews I've read are rather positive about the delivery of both engines, especially the 2.5. Additionally, the straight-six allows for impressively low NVH.

PS. Do note that the pics are from the Chinese-built Epicas, not ones built by GM DAT - that said, I believe they are already of quality at least comparable to the Camry, even if a bit on the conservative side when it comes to design.



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Old 10-19-2007, 09:00 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I must say i perfer the front on the car in bravadas pic than the Chinese front.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:01 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I must say i perfer the front on the car in bravadas pic than the Chinese front.
Absolutely, the Chinese one looks horrible in the front if you ask me. The side looks dated and the back looks fine.

The interior looks pretty nice in the pictures to me. I'd have to see it in person to see how it compares to other cars. I can never tell that well from pics.

I really can't see this being a good replacement, even temporarily, for a Buick Lacrosse. I know the Lacrosse is outdated but it seems it would hardly be worth it to use this car for only a couple of years. Unless they get a more powerful motor in there people will only be unimpressed by the car even if it has a nicer interior than the Lacrosse. Epsilon II can't get here fast enough and I hope its great.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:18 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I must say i perfer the front on the car in bravadas pic than the Chinese front.
I agree, the joke is because Audi is doing so well in China, Chevy decide to copy one thing from it, which is the front grille
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:39 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Man. that is just butt ugly
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:12 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Murder Most Horrid

Comments on the other issues:

Go see the car in person before you say it's "sub-par". Not only does it look good (not in this Chinese version but in the Korean/Euro/Aussie version with nicety wheels and all) and rather "premium", but also the interior is light years ahead of Hyundai or Kia in materials' quality (perhaps the Cee'd and i30 are getting there, but the Sonata and Optima have nothing on it), and the build quality is impressive to say the least.

I haven't seen the Malibu or Aura, but I would bet it would at least hold its own against them in interior quality. To name one thing it has over them to start with: rear armrest.

The I6 in the Epica was designed by Porsche for Daewoo, so I don't think it is in any way related to the inline engines GM uses in their trucks. It was tuned for even torque delivery accross the RPM range, hence the unimpressive numbers. That said, reviews I've read are rather positive about the delivery of both engines, especially the 2.5. Additionally, the straight-six allows for impressively low NVH.

PS. Do note that the pics are from the Chinese-built Epicas, not ones built by GM DAT - that said, I believe they are already of quality at least comparable to the Camry, even if a bit on the conservative side when it comes to design.


i like the interior, especially with that satnav screen, but i think they offer that to korean market
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interior is good.. front is kinda funky
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
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why did FoMoCo get this first?

btw i dont think it fits too well wit hthe rest of the car there
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:04 PM   #57 (permalink)
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why did FoMoCo get this first?

btw i dont think it fits too well wit hthe rest of the car there
They didn't get anything first. Just thought they did.
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I dont really like the looks of it. The nose on the Malibu looks 100 times better!
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:18 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I would say GM should rip off another Chinese car company's face (like they do to all the other auto manufacturers) but even if they did, they would probably just be ripping off their own design that the Chinese company ripped off!!! LOL
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I can't believe they are replacing this great looking front end with the white one above. It looks like a kid that's pouting, with it's lower lip sticking out. They should really offer this car in the US again, is this still coming as a Suzuki?
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