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Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
I'm not convinced yet that GM's brass gets it. Yes, they pay some lip service to the crisis, but I'm not so sure there's a real sense of urgency. I've heard similar things in the past, and yet we've never really witnessed a full turnaround. I'm convinced that GM possesses more than enough talented engineers, marketers, and assembly-line workers. I'm just not so sure upper management has figured out what it needs to do - or not do - to let these motivated people simply do their jobs well in the way they they'd like to. Granted there are some positive signs (I'm particularly pleased with GM's recent quality awards, which, if consistently earned, will serve GM well in the longterm) that lend support to the argument, but I still have this sense of deja vu. Time will tell.
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
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- it micro-manages the way they should think and grow - thinking differently is a liability rather than an asset - a common mold is used as "success recipe" - teamwork means do not disagree - the "unwritten" is more powerful than the "written" - taking risk is punished rather than rewarded - people need to wear gloves to talk to each other for routine and simple issues - silence is the rule when it comes to communicate - silence as a punishment tool. And that's what kills people, innovation and ultimately corporations. It makes payrollists (or paycheckists). |
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
No doubt that competition drives improvement and innovation. GM like any one individual, but particularly as a large (very large) institution, it will develop practices and habits that originally may have been a good idea. Since those practices and habits work at the time, GM becomes entrenched in those and turns ultra-conservative in order to avoid change. For an employee to suggest a new and better way to do things is outrageous and deemed as treason to the good old way of doing things by senior staff. Eventually those practices will hinder improvement and habits become bad habits. Conserving them then becomes a liability when competing against smaller, flexible, more liberal and more aggressive institutions out to get you.
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
A point I would make to Mr Kerkorian though, is that if there is a forced sale of assets (such as the commercial mortage subsidiary of GMAC) there will be NO special dividend to shareholders as the money is for corporate use only.
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
The problem with GM is they are running a 2005 business in the view of the 1960s.
This day of reckoning would have come 10 years ago if it were not for the SUV craze. GM got lucky on this (it was luck, not anything else) and minted gold for a few years. But now that the SUV craze is over, they are back to the same position they were in before. The recent releases by GM execs saying that weak SUV sales are caused by weak product flies in the face of common sense and simple economics, and shows that upper management is in deep denial. GM has been through this blunder before. They dismissed consumers' changing tastes in the 1970s and kept producing large gas sucking vehicles while mocking Datsun, Toyota, and Honda's smaller offerings. By the time they realized they were wrong, GM did a 180 and rushed the infamous X, J & A bodies to the market which helped eliminate any credibilty of quality products that GM once had. Where does GM go from here? Here's some of my suggestions: Consolidate GMC/Hummer, pare back Buick, merge Saturn and Pontiac, design flashier models, provide better service, and articulate VALUE VALUE VALUE. |
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
why would they sell GMAC since its making money for the rest of the copreration?
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R&D - the source of the future requires a lot of money. Spinning off to shareholders generates nothing except for happy shareholders. I would not be surprised if the non-auto portions of GMAC are sold off in the next 12 months but this would be disastrous if all that happened was to line KK's pockets with even more money. |
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
Shareholders think short-term, almost exclusively. "What have you done for me lately?" If a move will make quick cash, they'll almost always go for it--the only exception is when it's obvious that that quick-cash move WILL--not CAN or MAY--put the company under. Selling off GMAC WILL put GM under.
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
If they were to spin off a PORTION of GMAC, it would be the commercial loan aspect, not the auto loan aspect for clarification. The advantage of this would be a superior credit rating for the spun off company, making it easier and cheaper to secure financing. Also, some suggest that spinning off a portion of GMAC would yield a price far greater in proportion to it's size versus GM's current stock price (if portions are spun off and fetch $10/share, and it's not 1/3rd of the company as GMs shares are hovering around $30, stockholders come out ahead and value is created).
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Re: Wounded GM Ready for Some Bold Moves?
Maybe I'll end up kicking myself, but I am holding onto my shares for at least a few more years until GM steers back to a solidly profitable course. Unlike some (most?) others, I really like what I seeing coming down the pike in terms of product. In terms of labor relations, the UAW will hopefully share some of the pain that we shareholders have thus far been enduring by ourselves. As the airline industry proved, if labor chokes off the goose laying those golden eggs, competitors will drive the suffocated geese out of business. With the Asians opening up non-union plants in the South, without pensions and mediocre pay and benefits, this disparity between UAW/non-UAW plants has finally come to a head. Neither management nor labor can avoid that the competition will kill it unless they match the non-Union prices. It may not be fair, but fair went out the window too long ago. Good luck GM!
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