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Old 01-25-2008, 07:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Will The Pontiac G8 Be A Hit? Then Buy Some 'G8' Shares On The Car Stock Exchange

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Old 01-25-2008, 07:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Put me down for a thousand dollars worth of G8 shares please and enter me in the contest to win one.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124480

Short me a thousand on the Tahoe hybrid also - Who is going to pony up $ 9100 to save three miles per gallon?
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*
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Put me down for a thousand dollars worth of G8 shares please and enter me in the contest to win one.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124480

Short me a thousand on the Tahoe hybrid also - Who is going to pony up $ 9100 to save three miles per gallon?
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*
I'd be more comfortable waging on the Tahoe Hybrid. With 20mpg city, and big tow ratings, it will be hot!
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Will The Pontiac G8 Be A Hit? Then Buy Some 'G8' Shares On The Car Stock Exchange

It's hard to tell if the G8 will do as well as the Bonneville did. I'm not impressed with the interior, (saw it at the auto show) especially the dash plastics. My Bonneville looks much better than the G8, which uses that new type of "basketball finish" they put on the dashes now. I know the G8 has performance, and RWD, but that only impresses the few enthusiests that will drive it like a performance car that it is. The G8 won't be a huge seller, but it will be kind of like the Corvette is, will impress those that want performance, but not appeal to the masses.
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So is the value of your "stock" actually tied to sales? Or is it merely tied how many people in this game want to throw their pretend money at their favorite model?

If it's actually tied to sales, the G8 will NEVER be a hit - it's not set up to be a volume seller. If it's just a matter of what models everyone wants to put their pretend money on(and nothing to do with how the car is actually doing in the marketplace), then it's pretty pointless. Perhaps the pretend stocks can give pretend dividends based on days-inventory figures for each car at the end of every month. That may be the best way to tie in some reality to the game.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Put me down for a thousand dollars worth of G8 shares please and enter me in the contest to win one.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124480

Short me a thousand on the Tahoe hybrid also - Who is going to pony up $ 9100 to save three miles per gallon?
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*
I've seen the G8 at the car show and I don't think this car will be a hit. GM is wasting it's time and money on this car.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd be more comfortable waging on the Tahoe Hybrid. With 20mpg city, and big tow ratings, it will be hot!
Actually, by shorting he is waging that the Tahoe Hybrid will not be hot.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I've seen the G8 at the car show and I don't think this car will be a hit. GM is wasting it's time and money on this car.
I don't know, what number of G8s does Pontiac have to sell to be considered a hit? It is not going to sell 150,000 copies a year, but I think it will do more to align Pontiac with its new image (performance/rwd).

Overall I did like the G8 that I sat in at the show. Time will tell how well it sells.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It's hard to tell if the G8 will do as well as the Bonneville did. I'm not impressed with the interior, (saw it at the auto show) especially the dash plastics. My Bonneville looks much better than the G8, which uses that new type of "basketball finish" they put on the dashes now. I know the G8 has performance, and RWD, but that only impresses the few enthusiests that will drive it like a performance car that it is. The G8 won't be a huge seller, but it will be kind of like the Corvette is, will impress those that want performance, but not appeal to the masses.
I agree. My 3 bonnies were great cars (90's). The g8 looks too small. Maybe it's a great midsize sports sedan. pontiac lost my bonnie buys to park ave. then the park ave. died and i went full time trucks. i even tried a caddy dts, but like the supercharged park aves better. A lot of us still want and like big, i do.
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There is no way it will be a hit if they are only going to import 3 of them and it take 800 years for them to get here. Sorry, Pontiac needs a sedan that it can sell 100,000 plus of per year alongside the 150,000 or so G6's that are sold, the G8 is not it, I would have rather they done a complete refresh of the Bonneville on the G platform or a total re-design of the Grand Prix's W body and kept making either one (they could since FWD Impalas are expected to be made in Oshwa until past 2010, and the Lucerne/DTS G body is still made in Hamtramak until 2012) and if Pontiac stll wanted it, it could also import the G8 as a top of the range model for the divsion, but kept the FWD Grand Prix for volume.
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but kept the FWD Grand Prix for volume.
The only volume the Grand Prix did was fleets.
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I think that if GM can market the G8 sedan right people will buy it, what they can't do is just advertise the G8 GT because then people won't even really know about the v6 version. The pontiac enthusiasts will naturally buy the v8 and will not need a huge marketing campaign to let people know about it. If GM can focus their marketing mostly on the v6 version people will buy it. I thing that how GM focuses its advertising on this car will either make it or break it.
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Why do people think the G8 wont sell well? I am really lost by that statement. Granted there are some things I think they could have done better but show me another V8, RWD 4-door car for $30K that can compete with the G8. Its not for everyone and thats the point. Pontiac will be a niche brand from now on and GM and I are fine with that. If they sell 45-50K per year, awesome. IF you would rather have the FWD Impala, knock yourself out. There are around 300K of you out there and GM makes that car for you. Personally, I will be in the enthusiast minority and take the G8.
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I don't know, what number of G8s does Pontiac have to sell to be considered a hit? It is not going to sell 150,000 copies a year, but I think it will do more to align Pontiac with its new image (performance/rwd).

Overall I did like the G8 that I sat in at the show. Time will tell how well it sells.
Would you say it's as roomy inside as a 300C? just curious...didn't make it to Detroit this year.
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Would you say it's as roomy inside as a 300C? just curious...didn't make it to Detroit this year.
Numerically, the EPA says that the G8 has 107 cu.ft. interior space, vs. 104 for the 300C. The G8 has a 17 cu.ft. trunk vs. 18 for the 300C. The G8 is really quite large inside compared to how it appears on the outside, at least to my eyes. The G8 has the same interior space as as Crown Vic (although the CV's trunk is much larger).
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