A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

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    A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Sat December 9, 2006
    Community, union resize GM future
    By Tim Martin
    Associated Press Writer



    LANSING, Michigan — Piles of crushed concrete and broken brick wait to be hauled away as bulldozers tear down old General Motors Corp. factories that have stood for a century on the banks of the Grand River in downtown Lansing.

    Behind the demolition, a gleaming white Cadillac factory built five years ago with state-of-the-art technology greets the next generation of auto workers.

    GM has a far smaller presence in the Lansing area than it had just a few years ago. But the automaker’s new factories here are more efficient and better-suited to survive in the hyper-competitive automotive industry.

    Some see elements of a model GM could borrow from as it reshapes itself to compete with Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. and other foreign companies that have cut into its market share the past few decades.

    "This is the factory model that will turn GM around, put it back on the map,” says Marion Glasscoe, who helps assemble the Cadillac CTS and STS sedans and the SRX crossover vehicle in the Lansing Grand River Assembly factory just blocks from the state Capitol. "We just had some hard times. But I think with what we’ve got coming forward, it’s going to turn GM completely around.”

    Just west of Lansing in Delta Township, a factory that makes the GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook and soon will add the Buick Enclave .

    The vehicle assembly plants are GM’s first to be built in the United States since Saturn began building cars in 1990 in Spring Hill, Tenn.

    Meanwhile, GM’s older Lansing factories have been partially torn down or await potential buyers.

    Were it not for innovative partnerships with the United Auto Workers and local government officials, the automaker might not have much of a presence left in Lansing.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    well with GM building more efficient plants, and hopefully getting the UAW to cooperate. This will help GM out to complete the turn around. These are the last few steps needed for GM to start gainning steam again.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    UAW needs to go away, there is no way GM can compete with Nissan, Hyundai with these guys sucking blood from its arteries

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau
    UAW needs to go away, there is no way GM can compete with Nissan, Hyundai with these guys sucking blood from its arteries

    no matter how much u hate the UAW.. u know GM would not be as successful without it. Yeah they have caused some problems recently but they have been the backbone of the work force for decades... with that being said i really hope they can work out the problems fast

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Is the UAW willing to work for wages comparable to those available at North American non-UAW plants?
    Is the UAW willing to allow cutbacks in retiree pensions and healthcare?
    Is the UAW willing to end the jobs bank?

    If the answers are "NO" or even "No", then the writing is on the wall. Domestic manufacturers cannot continue to labor under a $2000 per vehicle cost disadvantage. That's not a UAW diatribe, that's facing reality.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau
    UAW needs to go away, there is no way GM can compete with Nissan, Hyundai with these guys sucking blood from its arteries
    If the US government were to outlaw unions, this country would go to the days of the 1930s. The workers would end up having to pay for their health insurance and the rich would get richer and finally this country would collapse economically.One company would take benefits and the next company would say "we can compete so therefore we also have to take away benefits. Being anti union is the communist way!

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Al465
    If the US government were to outlaw unions, this country would go to the days of the 1930s. The workers would end up having to pay for their health insurance and the rich would get richer and finally this country would collapse economically.One company would take benefits and the next company would say "we can compete so therefore we also have to take away benefits. Being anti union is the communist way!
    Err Capitalistic way...not communist.

    The UAW just needs to be realistic and plane's post states that.
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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Al465
    If the US government were to outlaw unions, this country would go to the days of the 1930s. The workers would end up having to pay for their health insurance and the rich would get richer and finally this country would collapse economically.One company would take benefits and the next company would say "we can compete so therefore we also have to take away benefits. Being anti union is the communist way!
    Lot of truth there....

    People need to read about pre-union times to see how they were treated at their place of employment. I have never been a "Union Dood". But, I can see their need still to be around.
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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Al465
    If the US government were to outlaw unions, this country would go to the days of the 1930s. The workers would end up having to pay for their health insurance and the rich would get richer and finally this country would collapse economically.One company would take benefits and the next company would say "we can compete so therefore we also have to take away benefits. Being anti union is the communist way!
    Black and White is how you see everything.


    Let's get a couple quick important things straight.


    Many (not all but many) Unions have served there purpose, aren't needed anymore and are only driving manufacturing away are simply putting a company out of busniness.

    The UAW is one of those. UAW members are compensated far more than they deserve, get far more benefits and many slack around much more then they should. You think the term "lazy" just all of a sudden became what the public thinks of the UAW? No, the reputation of laziness was built over time right along with the Big threes reputation of building poor quality cars. In constuction almost all the union workers are lazy asses that don't deserve their job.

    Unions are not what they should be. Now too many unions simply allow for workers to become over paid pigs, who can't be fired over their half ass work.

    Unions are simply needed for Teachers, Police and Fire Fighters. The UAW members are far more than over compensated and its better for America without them.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Media!
    Unions are simply needed for Teachers, Police and Fire Fighters. The UAW members are far more than over compensated and its better for America without them.
    No! It is better for American Companies...not necessarily better for America as a whole. There is a big big difference there.
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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    "Meanwhile, GM’s older Lansing factories have been partially torn down or await potential buyers. But GM’s downsizing could have hit Lansing much harder. Were it not for innovative partnerships with the United Auto Workers and local government officials, the automaker might not have much of a presence left in Lansing"
    Thank god for small miracles and hard working craftsmen in the industry.I am sure the high quality ratings of the past halped as well as Mr Hollister and his staff. Thanks to all of youi involved in keeping Lansing from becoming the Flint of the 2000's

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Media!
    Black and White is how I see everything.


    Let's get a couple quick important things straight.


    Many (not all but many) Unions have served there purpose, aren't needed anymore and are only driving manufacturing away are simply putting a company out of busniness.

    The UAW is one of those. UAW members are compensated far more than they deserve, get far more benefits and many slack around much more then they should. You think the term "lazy" just all of a sudden became what the public thinks of the UAW? No, the reputation of laziness was built over time right along with the Big threes reputation of building poor quality cars. In constuction almost all the union workers are lazy asses that don't deserve their job.

    Unions are not what they should be. Now too many unions simply allow for workers to become over paid pigs, who can't be fired over their half ass work.

    Unions are simply needed for Teachers, Police and Fire Fighters. The UAW members are far more than over compensated and its better for America without them.
    Fixed it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dood
    No! It is better for American Companies...not necessarily better for America as a whole. There is a big big difference there.
    Some unions are needed, And maintain doing what they are supposed to do, which is protect the worker. Too many unions especially the UAW, don't protect the worker they literally destroy the company by sucking it dry and many of their members have become so lazy they shouldn't have a job.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    I kind of always been non-union, but that doesn't mean GM & Ford can't work it out with the unions. The unions have given up some concessions on health care, drugs and work productivity rules. I think they will have to continue giving up benefits if they won't to work for a company with a future or risk losing all their jobs to Canada and Mexico. Look for the uaw to give up the jobs bank and a few other concessions in the next round as well as agreeing to more plant closings. GM & Ford can throw a nugget or two at the unions like increased profit sharing agreements and rewards for innovative, cost saving practices.

    Maybe Ford and GM should build their next assembly plants right next to toyota, honda and nissan. Then the transplants might get infected by the uaw bug and level the playing field.

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    Re: A Time of Change for Lansing, GM, and the UAW

    Quote Originally Posted by Al465
    If the US government were to outlaw unions, this country would go to the days of the 1930s. The workers would end up having to pay for their health insurance and the rich would get richer and finally this country would collapse economically.One company would take benefits and the next company would say "we can compete so therefore we also have to take away benefits. Being anti union is the communist way!
    thank you.

    some people who post in here have no idea how the real world operates and what the workers and their families go through. most unionized workers aren't living high in the sky and have to work for everything they've got. Most of the people in here would do the same for themselves and their families if put in the same situations.
    I'm tired of seeing all you ignorant miss informed and jealous young Americans trash the people and the organizations that built the country into what it is.
    Maybe lay the blame on the company's that failed to keep up with the times in terms of their products, and for gross mismanagement in most cases over the course of many decades. Not the people who go in day in and day out busting their hump so the can earn a living.

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