Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008

Jkujo · 03-12-2007, 03:06 PM

Not that it is a surprise or anything. Unless this changes, the Supercharged 3800 engine and GT trim for the 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix will no longer be available. Please check out what else is new so far by clicking the link below:

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/dom...ID=4812&type=0

GMFreak8 · 03-12-2007, 04:18 PM

I loved this engine. It's too bad GM had to let it get dated. I wish the supercharged 3.8 was available in the Lucerne instead of just the base.

215,000 on my 3.8 buick right now.

mkaresh · 03-12-2007, 04:34 PM

How much longer is the Grand Prix going to be around? It's probably going to be 90% fleet in 2008, with the G8 on the scene.

I did recently include the GXP in a list of used car bargains posted to my blog. Fun car that should be cheap used.

fenderbender · 03-12-2007, 04:42 PM

That's no good, I'm the 3.8 supercharged now, what happens if I stay like that untill 09, will I be eliminated? dun dun dunnn

kenman923 · 03-12-2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMFreak8

I loved this engine. It's too bad GM had to let it get dated. I wish the supercharged 3.8 was available in the Lucerne instead of just the base.

215,000 on my 3.8 buick right now.

The Lucerne offers the 4.6L Northstar V8 as an option, replacing the Supercharged 3800.

I am thinking that the 3800 will be phased out altogether in favor of the 3.6L HF V6.

JonathanRohr · 03-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenman923

The Lucerne offers the 4.6L Northstar V8 as an option, replacing the Supercharged 3800.

I am thinking that the 3800 will be phased out altogether in favor of the 3.6L HF V6.

I think what he meant was that instead of the Base Lucerne having the 3800, it should have had the SC 3800.

**Ming** · 03-12-2007, 05:48 PM

What more can be said than GM stopped investing in improving it? "If it ain't broke don't fix it" doesn't apply to the highly competitive automotive industry.

Much as I love my supercharged Bonnie, the engine is a relic of the past and the sooner its gone, the better. An engine that needs a supercharger to get what horsepower a freakin' Hyundai 3.8L engine can get naturally aspirated is embarassing from an image standpoint, no matter how "bulletproof" it is/was and regardless of the smooth torque curve.

killerrd2 · 03-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Let it go.

I think the 3.6 is far superior.

mrgto · 03-12-2007, 05:54 PM

3800 is going away after 2008 anyway so them cancelling the SC engine makes sense now.

Chronos97 · 03-12-2007, 06:01 PM

After 20 years of saving for a S/C 3800 W-body car I am sh#t out of luck.

WHY GM WHY????????????

Guess it's on to the next option....the 3400 Torrent.

NINETY_EIGHT_REGENCY · 03-12-2007, 06:13 PM

I am not shocked. I heard the 3800 was going away a few years ago. I like the engine because it powers my Ninety Eight and Toronado. It would have been nice to see it updated. They kept making improvements on it in the late 1980's well into the 1990's. It has been around in some form or another since 1961.

GMFreak8 · 03-12-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenman923

The Lucerne offers the 4.6L Northstar V8 as an option, replacing the Supercharged 3800.

I am thinking that the 3800 will be phased out altogether in favor of the 3.6L HF V6.

I wouldn't own a 4.6L Northstar powered Buick if you paid me. I want my 3.8, not the 3.6, but the 3.8. Damn GM and their refusal to update it. I've never cared for the Northstar engine. Quite honestly I don't care for the whole Cadillac lineup. They've become too European, there's not enough true American luxury there anymore. I want my American landbarge, that I can take on long trips, and ride in luxury. Thank god Buick still delivers that. But I digress. I'll own a Buick for as long as I'm around and Buick is around, and as long as I can, I'll own one with the 3.8 in it. I can only hope that the 3.6 will become as reputable and reliable as the 3.8 is now. If only the 3.6 was a pushrod engine.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm stuck in the past...

Caleb02 · 03-12-2007, 06:13 PM

i love super charged engines.. will gm super charge the 3.6l dohc engine or the v8 for the g8?

TORRED1 · 03-12-2007, 06:33 PM

Let see, " bullet proof" , smooth torgue curve and if it aint broke dont fix it, sounds like a good reason to keep it and refine it. To me VVT sounds like a problem waiting to happen, or at least reliability that may not be on par with OHV (LS1) type engines. I personally would rather have old tried and true rather than new and unknown. I guess I will let someone else cut their teeth on the new stuff,

mrmonte · 03-12-2007, 06:35 PM

Do you guys with sc3800's always run high test? I always run it in both mine but I am wondering if I can get away with regular. I didnt think you could get the SC in any thing any more I thought the 5.3 replace it in the Grand Prix.

03-12-2007, 03:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jkujo 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Michigan Drives: 2008 Pontiac G6 GXP Coupe with Street Edition Posts: 217	Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 Not that it is a surprise or anything. Unless this changes, the Supercharged 3800 engine and GT trim for the 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix will no longer be available. Please check out what else is new so far by clicking the link below: http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/dom...ID=4812&type=0

03-12-2007, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
GMFreak8 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Adirondacks Posts: 2,350	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 I loved this engine. It's too bad GM had to let it get dated. I wish the supercharged 3.8 was available in the Lucerne instead of just the base. 215,000 on my 3.8 buick right now. __________________ Beyond AM. Beyond FM. XM Satellite Radio. Radio to the power of X.

03-12-2007, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
mkaresh 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,394	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 How much longer is the Grand Prix going to be around? It's probably going to be 90% fleet in 2008, with the G8 on the scene. I did recently include the GXP in a list of used car bargains posted to my blog. Fun car that should be cheap used. __________________ truedelta.com More useful reliability research -- need more GM vehicles! Real-world fuel economy Price comparisons, quick and thorough

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Ming GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SE Texas Posts: 13,395	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 What more can be said than GM stopped investing in improving it? "If it ain't broke don't fix it" doesn't apply to the highly competitive automotive industry. Much as I love my supercharged Bonnie, the engine is a relic of the past and the sooner its gone, the better. An engine that needs a supercharger to get what horsepower a freakin' Hyundai 3.8L engine can get naturally aspirated is embarassing from an image standpoint, no matter how "bulletproof" it is/was and regardless of the smooth torque curve. __________________ The Latest: Necromancer A Web Browser for the Commodore 64? Last edited by Ming : 03-12-2007 at 05:53 PM.

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03-12-2007, 05:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
killerrd2 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Great Lakes Road Warrior Drives: '04 Pontiac Vibe Posts: 550	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 Let it go. I think the 3.6 is far superior. __________________ "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." -- Albert Einstein

03-12-2007, 05:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
mrgto 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 571	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 3800 is going away after 2008 anyway so them cancelling the SC engine makes sense now.

03-12-2007, 06:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chronos97 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 127	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 After 20 years of saving for a S/C 3800 W-body car I am sh#t out of luck. WHY GM WHY???????????? Guess it's on to the next option....the 3400 Torrent.

03-12-2007, 06:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
NINETY_EIGHT_REGENCY 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston,Texas Drives: Oldsmobile Toronado and Oldsmobile Ninety Eight Posts: 414	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 I am not shocked. I heard the 3800 was going away a few years ago. I like the engine because it powers my Ninety Eight and Toronado. It would have been nice to see it updated. They kept making improvements on it in the late 1980's well into the 1990's. It has been around in some form or another since 1961.

03-12-2007, 06:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Caleb02 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 881	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 i love super charged engines.. will gm super charge the 3.6l dohc engine or the v8 for the g8?

03-12-2007, 06:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
TORRED1 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Drives: 2004 GTO 2006 HHR Posts: 518	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 Let see, " bullet proof" , smooth torgue curve and if it aint broke dont fix it, sounds like a good reason to keep it and refine it. To me VVT sounds like a problem waiting to happen, or at least reliability that may not be on par with OHV (LS1) type engines. I personally would rather have old tried and true rather than new and unknown. I guess I will let someone else cut their teeth on the new stuff,

03-12-2007, 06:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
mrmonte 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 171	Re: Supercharged 3800 dropped for 2008 Do you guys with sc3800's always run high test? I always run it in both mine but I am wondering if I can get away with regular. I didnt think you could get the SC in any thing any more I thought the 5.3 replace it in the Grand Prix.

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