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Old 07-07-2008, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mandatory: New Cars in California Must Display "Global Warming Score"

New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
By GreenBiz Staff
Published July 7, 2008

OAKLAND, Calif. -- California is making it mandatory for cars to be labeled with global warming scores, figures that take into account emissions from vehicle use and fuel production.

The law requiring the labels goes into effect at the start of next year for all 2009 model cars, though its expected the labels will be popping up on cars in the coming months.

The labeling law forces cars for sale to display a global warming score, on a scale of one to 10, which is based on how vehicles in the same model year compare to one another. The higher the score, the cleaner a car is. The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles.

The score will be displayed next to the already-required smog score, which also rates cars one to 10 for how many smog-forming emissions they emit. For both scores, an average vehicle will have a score of five.

California is the first state of pass such as law, and a similar law will take effect in New York for 2010 model year vehicles. Global warming scores will be included on the state's DriveClean website.

While this law is intended to help consumers take into account emissions while purchasing cars, a proposed law in the European Union would require E.U. public sector bodies put a price on emissions.

A law endorsed by the European Parliament's Committee on Environment, Public Health and Food Safety would make governments put a monetary cost on the emissions of vehicles they plan to purchase, and add that to expense calculations. The law would exclude certain types of vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks.

Source: http://www.greenbiz.com/news/2008/07...-warming-score

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they should have just used the EU Energy consumption system .. but that would be too simple - and California HAS to have its own way.

That said - how is this different from the EPA scale already on the window sticker? I assume the GW score is just the FE / CO2 scale from EPA .. so what gives?

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I love Earth, nature, and clean air as much as the next guy. But why the hell call it the "Global Warming Score"? Why not pollutant score or just combine it with the already existing smog score?
It's these kind of moves that remind me why I left that state.
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Dear sweet Jesus...a "score" attached to a con job extraordinaire.

Of course, they've got the hook, line, and sinker in so deep that they will never ever admit how wrong they are.

What a bunch of loonies. No, make that imbeciles.
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I love Earth, nature, and clean air as much as the next guy. But why the hell call it the "Global Warming Score"? Why not pollutant score or just combine it with the already existing smog score?
It's these kind of moves that remind me why I left that state.
Agreed. And didn't NASA just release a study that showed that not only has the Earth been cooling for 10 years but also we have another 30 years of slight cooling on the way as well? Isn't that why "they" have changed the from "Global Warming to "Climate Change" which was more accurate in the first place? I guess it just lacked the ability to scare the **** out of people...

More utter stupidity and agenda driven' politics.
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I promise to vote for any presidential candidate who vows not to pull an Abraham Lincoln if Duncan Hunter takes to the floor of the House and declares "Madam Speaker, California secedes from the union."
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Sweet! The car with the score closest to 0 will be mine! Thanks for helping me shop, Sacramento.
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How would they rate the impact of generating electricity? Some places use old coal fired plants, others use nuclear or hydro so it depends where you charge...

Same goes for Ethanol - from corn, cellulosic, etc...
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and California HAS to have its own way.
Yes its called states rights. Anyway I think I need to write a letter.

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I promise to vote for any presidential candidate who vows not to pull an Abraham Lincoln if Duncan Hunter takes to the floor of the House and declares "Madam Speaker, California secedes from the union."
I will be glad if we leave. So many things from the national government that makes no sense are being pushed onto all citizens without votes. Regulation E, a 55mph speed limit, tax laws. yikes were is my Constitution?
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Yes its called states rights. Anyway I think I need to write a letter.



I will be glad if we leave. So many things from the national government that makes no sense are being pushed onto all citizens without votes. Regulation E, a 55mph speed limit, tax laws. yikes were is my Constitution?
I am not taking away their right - I am just saying - it is better to start unifying the information bombarding people left and right - EU got it right - they developed one single energy scale - with a nice scoring representation - and whether Jellymounds likes it or not - after decades on fridges and dishwashers, it is burned into people's minds - so now - on cars - it is instantly understood.

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Dear sweet Jesus...a "score" attached to a con job extraordinaire.

Of course, they've got the hook, line, and sinker in so deep that they will never ever admit how wrong they are.

What a bunch of loonies. No, make that imbeciles.
I should've known you'd beat me to it.

What's next, the Motor Vehicle Unicorn Index?
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So let me guess, car manufacturers must pay a company owned partly by Al Gore to have thier cars scored right?

Why don't they also include the % of "global warming" causing gases in the air, then the % contribued by man, THEN the % contributed from cars. You know, to give consumers all the info needed to make an informed decision.
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They should also have an index to see how much the moon affects the vehicles driving dynamics during its Harvest, it COULD have a severe effect...
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How many trees will be destroyed each year to produce the stickers? Do they take that into account when calculating the score?
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This is what happens to states whose control is taken over by long hairs
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